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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Based on so much of Europe Central as I've read, it
seems that anarchy is the outcome of the collapse of Hitler's terror-state,
and what comes after is possibly worse: the routinization of terror,
terror as a business, terror as part of one's daily routine. In this
respect, EC thus far reminds me of "The Counterforce" section of GR (albeit with
fewer laughs).</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=bekah0176@sbcglobal.net
href="mailto:bekah0176@sbcglobal.net">bekah</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=bjohnson02@insightbb.com
href="mailto:bjohnson02@insightbb.com">B C Johnson</A> ; <A
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, June 26, 2006 4:38 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: NP Vollmann's "Europe
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<DIV>I see your point but I think it's rather beyond the scope of EC whether
or not anarchy is what led to Hitler and Lenin/Stalin. I've not
read any other of Vollmann's books but I've read about them and it seems as
though he might just address the issue of anarchy directly. Anyone
read any other Vollmann? </DIV>
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<DIV>Bekah</DIV>
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<DIV>At 1:57 PM -0400 6/26/06, B C Johnson wrote:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite">To clarify somewhat: I really meant
"Spike Jones", the American musical anarchist. Where Jones and Pynchon
see creative possibilities in anarchy, King Crimson and Vollman see it as a
condition precedent to autocratic authoritarianism (or that's my
impression).<BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June 20, 2006 9:22 PM</BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>Hoy! Hoy!</BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE> As a long time King Crimson devotee, I am
curious as to your observation. I know Spike Lee and Pynchon, I
know a little about Vollman (Rising Up/Down), and a lot about King
Crimson. It sounds as if I should try Europe Central sometime before
the alleged release of the new Pynchon novel. Thanx!</BLOCKQUOTE>
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truly,</BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE> <SPAN></SPAN> <SPAN></SPAN> <SPAN></SPAN> <SPAN></SPAN> <SPAN></SPAN> <SPAN></SPAN> ruud</BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: B C Johnson
<bjohnson02@insightbb.com><BR>To: bekah
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<BLOCKQUOTE>I'm reading Europe Central and finding it just engrossing. As
Pynchon is to Spike Lee, Vollman is to King Crimson. Tip o' the hat to
bekka. <BR> <BR>bekka wrote: <BR> <BR>> You bet it
is. One of the best I've read in years by anyone. I think it > could be
a successful group read here. <BR>> <BR>> Bekah</BLOCKQUOTE>
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