<p>All these are interesting!</p>
<p>So wait, hashslingrz is Gabriel Ice's company, buying the others in a google like manner...</p>
<p>Hwargh besides sounding like<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif">
<div><span>overwhelmingly (almost) to me that this line was added after the ARC.....</span></div><div><span></span> </div><div><span>To me, another resonance as stated is that it adds to seeing the story now but as already long past. </span></div>
<div><span></span> </div><div><span>I too. despite remembering the Le Carre praise of TRP side with Monte's first meanings, seconded by Jochen, most. </span></div><div><span></span> </div><div><span>I also think one of the best insights of this read is Jochen's "Unstructured", my ass".....Leavis-like in more ways than one. </span></div>
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<div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial"> On Tuesday, October 29, 2013 3:56 PM, Fiona Shnapple <<a href="mailto:fionashnapple@gmail.com" target="_blank">fionashnapple@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <div>The written explanatory matter accompanying an illustration, map, etc.<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">Working chronologically thru the OED, this one shows up in late<br clear="none">capitalism, in the 20th century. And, as P is fond of maps and<br clear="none">mapping, I'm gonna go with it. That's only if I have to play this game<br clear="none">
of Scrabble?<br clear="none"><br clear="none">On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Monte Davis <<a href="mailto:montedavis@verizon.net" shape="rect" target="_blank">montedavis@verizon.net</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">> I’m leaning to yours, David, but not 100% sold on any suggestion so far.<br clear="none">
> Consider context: Ziggy has just handed Maxine a flyer for March Kelleher’s<br clear="none">> website, autographed by March at the school assembly.<br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">
> “’Hey, so you saw March. Well. In fact, well well.’ The hashslingrz legend<br clear="none">> continues, here. March Kelleher happens to be Gabriel Ice’s mother-in-law…”<br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">
><br clear="none">> 1. Legend = cover story (maybe via Le Carre): March’s relationship to<br clear="none">> Ice is a fact, not part of a false identity or a deceptive background for<br clear="none">> Ice or his company.<br clear="none">
><br clear="none">> 2. Legend = saga, lore, myth: I’m not sure how it makes Ice or<br clear="none">> hashslingrz more “legendary,” or affects their
reputation at all, to know<br clear="none">> that his mother-in-law spoke at Kugelblitz<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> 3. Legend = key to interpretation: Maxine has not seen March for 10-15<br clear="none">
> years, and right now the only current information she has is that Marsh<br clear="none">> talked about Bush and Saudi Arabia at the school assembly. That *might*<br clear="none">> connect somehow, somewhere with the hashslingrz/Middle East hints on pp.<br clear="none">
> 47-48 – in fact we know it will -- but at this moment, is it enough to<br clear="none">> justify “the key to interpretation (of what hashslingrz is up to) has been<br clear="none">> extended by this”..?<br clear="none">
><br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">> For what it’s worth, this sentence was a last-minute substitution. In the<br clear="none">> ARC, the passage read:<br clear="none">><br clear="none">
><br clear="none">><br clear="none">> “’Hey, so you saw March. Well. In fact, well well.’ She recognizes the name,<br clear="none">> all right, March Kelleher is Gabriel Ice’s mother-in-law, for one thing, her<br clear="none">
> daughter Tallis and Ice having been…”<br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">> From: David Morris [mailto:<a href="mailto:fqmorris@gmail.com" shape="rect" target="_blank">fqmorris@gmail.com</a>]<br clear="none">
> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 1:14 PM<br clear="none">> To: jochen stremmel<br clear="none">> Cc: Monte Davis; Thomas Eckhardt; pynchon -l<br clear="none">> Subject: Re: BEER Ch. 6, 53-57: knotting into March Kelleher<br clear="none">
><br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Legend in this sense means a key to interpretation.<br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Like Rosetta Stone,<br clear="none">
><br clear="none">> On Monday, October 28, 2013, jochen stremmel wrote:<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> I think you are right, Monte. Pynchon's use of "legend" here is in the<br clear="none">
> sense saga, lore, myth, not like Le Carré's usage, which might not be<br clear="none">> MI6 argot but a Germanism, "Legende" in the sense of cover story for a<br clear="none">> spy. I didn't look it up again in his books.<br clear="none">
><br clear="none">> And Thomas is right, of course, with the "Schlageter" quote.<br clear="none">> Interestingly, the Wikipedia entry offers two translation of the<br clear="none">> original German: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanns_Johst." shape="rect" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanns_Johst.</a>And tells<br clear="none">
> that March is not alone with her
misattribution to Goering.<br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">><br clear="none">> 2013/10/28 Monte Davis <<a href="mailto:montedavis@verizon.net" shape="rect" target="_blank">montedavis@verizon.net</a>>:<br clear="none">
>> TE> Having just read some of Le Carré's novels, I find this reading of<br clear="none">>> 'legend' quite convincing. This would suggest that hashslingerz is a CIA<br clear="none">>> front, no?<br clear="none">
>><br clear="none">>> It's a tenuous association: I take Le Carre's usage to be MI6 argot, but<br clear="none">>> (1)<br clear="none">>> don't remember seeing "legend" used that way in espionage fiction by<br clear="none">
>> others;<br clear="none">>> (2) don't know that TRP has read JLC, his peer in paranoia and<br clear="none">>> hustle/counter-hustle; and (3) don't often see Maxine as thinking spy-wise<br clear="none">
>> rather than PI-wise. (Of course, one could debate whether that sentence<br clear="none">>> speaks for Maxine or the narrator over her shoulder.)<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> In any event, there are plenty of more compelling links between Gabriel<br clear="none">
>> Ice<br clear="none">>> and the Permanent Government. This one's quite possibly my illusion of<br clear="none">>> connectedness, but I'm happy to share...<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">
>> -<br clear="none">>> Pynchon-l / <a href="http://www.waste.org/mail/?listpynchon-l" shape="rect" target="_blank">http://www.waste.org/mail/?listpynchon-l</a><div><br clear="none">> -<br clear="none">> Pynchon-l / <a href="http://www.waste.org/mail/?listpynchon-l" shape="rect" target="_blank">http://www.waste.org/mail/?listpynchon-l</a><br clear="none">
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