Does Ernie's belief that television cop shows steered his daughters to the careers and mates they chose hold water? Or was it his anti-capitalist, anti-Zionist, anti- neoliberal, anti-neocon stories that drove these decisions? Maxine wonders. Maybe her mother, who so adored Windust for his shoes and style, though Maxine didn't take him down in the dirty carpet like a dog because she shared her mother's fashion lusts, had more to do with her attraction to Horst, her career in fraud? Maybe she it's Maybellian? Maybe, as Gaga sez, she was born with it. This guy is something of an expert in media or cultural history. He sure does bring his job home. Pushes his attitudes on his family hard. Seems his politics dominate his private life, like what opera to see, what tv to let the kids watch, but it seems to have backfired or, at least, to have failed.  Does the novel think it foolish to involve one's kids in Marches?<div><br></div><div>That TSI essay I cited recently makes a strong argument against King and using children to make the equality case. <br><div><br>On Sunday, February 28, 2016, ish mailian <<a href="mailto:ishmailian@gmail.com">ishmailian@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I don't mean fool in the Shakespearean, as in Lear's Fool, sense at all. Pynchon's narrators in GR are Shakespearean Fools in that the songs, the twists and turns of language, the puns, the playful and risky addresses to the audience/reader, the court, the Greek Chorus kind of function the Fool has been said to resemble...as Ahab's Fool, one Pip, the Black minstrel does, no Ernie is a nice old guy, smart and insightful enough, not a wit, not a tragic or ironic voice, not a mouthpiece of Pynchon, but of, in the Mennipean tradition, an attitude, one that he carries into his private life, sort of a twist on the way, though without the moat and sharp division, John Wemmick  works in Dickens's GE. Wemmick works for Vibe, or as he is named by Dickens, Jaggers. <div><br></div><div>Anyone with Google can trace a brief history of the internet. It's not 1970 so Pynchon doesn't impress us with his research, as he once did,  neither does Ernie.  Though Ernie tries, Pynchon knows better. <br><br>On Sunday, February 28, 2016, Jochen Stremmel <<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jstremmel@gmail.com');" target="_blank">jstremmel@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">If Ernie is a fool then in a Shakespearean sense, somebody who has savvy and freedom to speak the truth like in that paragraph about the genesis of the Internet Thomas quoted from.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2016-02-28 13:46 GMT+01:00 ish mailian <span dir="ltr"><<a>ishmailian@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">It's difficult to make strong arguments about the characters in these<br>
satires, but I'm confident in my reading ....sorry not going to defend<br>
it right now.<br>
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> To me this suggests that your argument that P depicts Ernie as a fool is<br>
> rather weak.<br>
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> Am 27.02.2016 um 18:43 schrieb ish mailian:<br>
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>> Of course, P hedges his satire of Ernie in several ways, not the least<br>
>> of which is that the text also suggests that his daughters are<br>
>> attracted to fascists and pigs not because of anything on the Tube or<br>
>> in Film or mass produced culture (the Tube) but because of something<br>
>> in them, something in females, just because they are female, or, to<br>
>> complicate matters, because of some variation on the Electra Complex<br>
>> ...etc.<br>
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>> Hedging is not quite what he does, it's that ironies, like Jewish<br>
>> Lefty raised Girl falls for German Commodities trader with fascist<br>
>> face of Hunky Nazi Hollywood Star than gets fucked in the ass by a<br>
>> Neo-Con and ends up with his Wife talking US South American<br>
>> politics.....and on and on turning the old daisy chain of screws so<br>
>> that we get hysterically inflated to the bursting point of a million<br>
>> laughs on every absurdity turned inside out and backward.<br>
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