<div dir="ltr">Obama's support of TTIP does not make him part of the "<span style="font-size:12.8px">gleeful-hand-rubbing evil conspiracy.</span>"  I believe he is sincere in his belief that it is, overall, good for the US (and the world). And, God knows, he's been the best US president since WAY back before I was born (1958).<div><br></div><div>David Morris</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 1:42 PM, Mark Kohut <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mark.kohut@gmail.com" target="_blank">mark.kohut@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Well, I'm not arguing such politics here anymore, but the wholesale jettisoning of <div>the last 8 years reminds me, in the only way I can be obliquely half-creative or half-assed</div><div>obliquely wrong, of nothing less than Gore Vidal on Gravity's Rainbow. How could he not see</div><div>anything good in the book? </div><div><br></div><div>Yeah, Obama's whole cabinet was worse than useless.  <br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><span class="">On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 1:19 PM, Joseph Tracy <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:brook7@sover.net" target="_blank">brook7@sover.net</a>></span> wrote:<br></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class="">Unfortunately Kai, a great many people think Obama is a hero who is trying to work for the people, but who has been foiled by the evil Republicans. This TTIP and the TPP trade agreements( both with bi-partisan support) are complete betrayals of Roosevelt’s attempts to reform capitalism and make it accountable to democratic process and humane ethics. The European people are right to be appalled. Meanwhile it barely makes the news here, we are distracted by the tremendous farts of the T-Rump lizard king and a broken voting system.<br>
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The GATT and NAFTA and the rejection of Glass Stagall were Clinton’s contributions to the Neo Colonial/ neo-liberal enterprise. That our recent presidents serve secretively developed international Corporate Law whose net effect is devastating our national economy and contributing to international exploitation, and that they do so with so little resistance is a sign of how manipulable the public is. Bernie is a sign that the the control of the elite is more tenuous than anyone knew.<br>
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The myth of Obama as a force for reform should have ended when he appointed his first cabinet, a motley collection of war criminals, CIA favorites, corporate swindlers, banksters and a wall street lawyer for attorney general.<br>
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</span><span>> > Whether you care about environmental issues, animal welfare, labour rights or internet privacy, you should be concerned about what is in these leaked documents. They underline the strong objections civil society and millions of people around the world have voiced: TTIP is about a huge transfer of power from people to big business. <<br>
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