<div dir="ltr">OK..Then I guess I do not understand fully Simon'e post or Pynchon's sentence here....So be it, I got as<div>far as Gunga Din mentally, could not remember Sam Jaffe much, and don't get the rest......</div><div>but I'm all ears. </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 3:42 PM, David Morris <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:fqmorris@gmail.com" target="_blank">fqmorris@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">The wistful classic would have to have been somehow related to "preforming on" somebody.</div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 2:38 PM, Mark Kohut <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mark.kohut@gmail.com" target="_blank">mark.kohut@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Can't remember anything else re Gunga Din....so, it just refers to the movie? </div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 3:35 PM, David Morris <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:fqmorris@gmail.com" target="_blank">fqmorris@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I don't think that fits.</div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 2:27 PM, Mark Kohut <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mark.kohut@gmail.com" target="_blank">mark.kohut@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">And so 'the wistful classic know to every tommy' would be "You're a better man than me, Gunga Din" ? </div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 2:52 PM, Simon Bryquer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sbryquer@nyc.rr.com" target="_blank">sbryquer@nyc.rr.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Being ill (<span style="color:#545454">dracunculiasis)</span> and <i><u>to perform on</u></i> is vomiting on someone or something. Key :Army.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">As per the following:<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Perhaps this has been answered before – we’re talking about Kipling here. The </span><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">‘</span></b><em><span lang="EN" style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#545454;font-weight:normal">Fuzzy</span></em><span><b><span lang="EN" style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#545454">-</span></b></span><em><span lang="EN" style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#545454;font-weight:normal">Wuzzy’ poem of 19<sup>th</sup> century British soldier view of </span></em><span lang="EN" style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#545454">Hadendoa warriors in Sudan.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN" style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#545454"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN" style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#545454">Gary Grant and all that refers to the movie ‘Gunga Din’ (also a Kipling poem made into a movie) played by Sam Jaffe, who I vaguely recall could be described in that movie as ‘Arab </span><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#545454">With A Big Greasy Nose’ though it’s all about India.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#545454"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#545454">BTW Sam Jaffe was great in the John Houston movie ‘Asphalt Jungle’ ---- also I believe this was Marilyn Monroe first speaking role, though she did not get any screen credit. She plays a slightly mentally off babysitter --- and she was extremely good.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#545454"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#545454">Maybe the key words here : dracunculiasis and elephant medicine<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#545454"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#545454">A parasitic infection caused by drinking flea invested water and causes one to vomit – to perform on here might be vomiting on one or many in the crowded army in battle.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#545454"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#545454">I would conclude to perform on is vomiting on someone or many. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a name="m_2126163574433140121_m_-2052951490685790888_m_4522508775799461116_m_326031821927302734_m_-8003759802232999929__MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></a></p><span></span><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <a href="mailto:owner-pynchon-l@waste.org" target="_blank">owner-pynchon-l@waste.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:owner-pynchon-l@waste.org" target="_blank">owner-pynchon-l@waste.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Monte Davis<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 23, 2016 12:30 PM<br><b>To:</b> Mike Jing <<a href="mailto:gravitys.rainbow.cn@gmail.com" target="_blank">gravitys.rainbow.cn@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> Pynchon Mailing List <<a href="mailto:pynchon-l@waste.org" target="_blank">pynchon-l@waste.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: GR translation: Arab With A Big Greasy Nose<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I take the "wistful classic" to be a comic song. I don't know the song, or know that Pynchon had any existing song in mind rather than a tease. So "perform" is wide open to your suggested definition... or to a musical performance (like squeezing a clown's rubber nose)... or to a sexual performance (details depending on culture, other organs involved, and how one feels about noses).<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 11:54 AM, Mike Jing <<a href="mailto:gravitys.rainbow.cn@gmail.com" target="_blank">gravitys.rainbow.cn@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><p class="MsoNormal">Resurrecting this old post nobody replied to back in 2011. A search in<br>the archives shows that this has been asked a few times, but no one<br>had an answer. The problems is that I still have to figure out how to<br>translate "perform on". From the OED:<br><br>6. intr.<br>b. euphem. Esp. of a child or a pet: to urinate or defecate.<br><br>Does this make sense to anyone else given the context?<br><br>On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 4:19 AM, Mike Jing <<a href="mailto:gravitys.rainbow.cn@gmail.com" target="_blank">gravitys.rainbow.cn@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>> P14.5-13  In 1935 he had his first episode outside any condition of<br>> known sleep—it was during his Kipling Period, beastly Fuzzy-Wuzzies<br>> far as eye could see, dracunculiasis and Oriental sore rampant among<br>> the troops, no beer for a month, wireless being jammed by other Powers<br>> who would be masters of these horrid blacks, God knows why, and all<br>> folklore broken down, no Gary Grant larking in and out slipping<br>> elephant medicine in the punchbowls out here . .. not even an Arab<br>> With A Big Greasy Nose to perform on, as in that wistful classic every<br>> tommy’s heard . . .<br>><br>> What is this classic with "an Arab With A Big Greasy Nose"? And what<br>> do they want to perform on him?<br>-<br>Pynchon-l / <a href="http://www.waste.org/mail/?listpynchon-l" target="_blank">http://www.waste.org/mail/?listpynchon-l</a><u></u><u></u></p></blockquote></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>
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