<div dir="ltr">Simply writing "THEY let him [Pointsman] run it his way" led to thinking of a dog running, a hound<div>hounding Slothrop in that fox-hound nexus loop Monte found (w Mike) and might still be excited by. </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 7:26 AM, Mark Kohut <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mark.kohut@gmail.com" target="_blank">mark.kohut@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Re: Command structure. I've always, not trying to work it out granularly (yet), seen it as a<div>fully-hidden <b>They</b> purposely. Reinforced after AtD because analogous. </div><div> Perhaps as PISCES in that scene? </div><div><br></div><div>Pointsman I've seen as being given his head; he is in charge of the science investigation, THEY</div><div>let him run it his way; others are made to help him and/or do other things (simply report). </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><span class="">On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 6:27 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kelber@mindspring.com" target="_blank">kelber@mindspring.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></span><div><div class="h5"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-size:13px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,sans-serif">I agree with the freelancing - Pointsman seems to be pretty independent. I'm sure it's been diagrammed somewhere, but as a reader it's hard to figure out the command structure that ties, say, Roger, Pirate and Pointsman together. All pretty obscure and ripe for renegade actions.<div><br></div><div>I don't see Katje being the source of the picture based on Pirate's psychosexual profile. He's never told Scorpia. He's never told anyone. That's the horror of the situation.</div><div><br></div><div>I'll second your Jack Hawkins as Pirate, but in return, I'm going to have to insist: William Holden ( a young incarnation, anyway) IS Slothrop.</div><div><br></div><div>LK<div><div><br><br><blockquote style="padding-left:5px;margin-left:0px;border-left:#0000ff 2px solid;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif;color:black">-----Original Message-----
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<br><br><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">>Â Either way, British Intelligence knows all about it.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I'd always read it that way before, but as I noted a while back I'm now entertaining at least the possibility that there's some freelancing going on, and/or that "They" are less monolithic than I once thought. Kryptosam was interwar, so by 1944 both sides (and the Dutch resistance) might have it without forcing the inference of "current" top-down cooperation. And given that Pirate has been back and forth into occupied Europe, I'm inclined to give Katje credit for knowing his pleasure points without having seen his dossier.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">>Â <span style="font-size:12.8px">this episode is misplaced chronologically.</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><span style="font-size:12.8px">Not impossibly so: by Weisenburger's timeline this scene is only the second day after "incoming mail," and might be the first private moment Pirate has had. It's a busybusybusy holiday season! :-)</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default"><a href="https://pynchonnotes.openlibhums.org/articles/abstract/10.16995/pn.401/" target="_blank">https://pynchonnotes.openlibhums.org/articles/abstract/10.16995/pn.401/</a><br></div><div class="gmail_default"><br></div><div class="gmail_default">BTW, Jack Hawkins has always been my "GR movie of the mind" pick for Pirate. That he started his career in panto is just gravy.<br><a href="http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0370144/" target="_blank">http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0370144/</a><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 1:28 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kelber@mindspring.com" target="_blank">kelber@mindspring.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Episode 11 is one of the shortest (the shortest? I haven't gone through and counted) in the book.<br>
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Summary: This is the first mention of IG Farben in the book, coupled with the second mention of Dr. Jamf. We learned in the earlier conversation between Pointsman and Spectro that Slothrop was previously one of Jamf's subjects. Now, via a brochure for one of IG Farben's dye products, we get a view of Jamf's focus - the marriage of the chemical and the psychosexual. Pirate, his psychosexual profile being accurately pegged by Them, is quickly able to decode the Kryptosam-inked message. He's being asked to step in and save an operative from a perilous situation.<br>
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The Kryptosam pamphlet is the first explicit mention of the running theme connecting control, death and sexuality. Kind of an early rendering of "grab 'em by the balls and their hearts and minds will follow." Or liebestod, Nazi-industrialized. Pirate's orgasm - petit mort - is a necessary step in a military-industrial process.<br>
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That the hidden Kryptosam ink develops into a "Negro-brown" color seems an echoing of the Negro/shit paranoia of the Kenosha Kid episode. When we meet Katje some episodes later, she's wearing a dress in "a rich cocoa shade known as 'nigger' in this country [Britain]."<br>
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"They hunt the sky like Wuotan and his mad army." Wuotan and his wild hunt signifying death to those who see it (a folkloric concept most recently ripped off by Game of Thrones, in the form of the White Walkers). After the obscurities of the Kenosha Kid, this is a little heavy-handed, no?<br>
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"Pirate's own robot hands…" Pirate, having masturbated on command, has become a cog in the machine. His sexual kinks mapped with scientific precision - measured input creates the required output - Pointsman's dream subject.<br>
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The chilling part of this episode is that it links IG Farben squarely with British intelligence. The operative - presumably Katje - wrote a message in Kryptosam. Was it made available to her by the Brits or was it readily available in Blicero's quarters? Either way, British Intelligence knows all about it. In a sense, Kryptosam is the anti-W.A.S.T.E., an alternate form of communication, not for the preterite, but for Them.<br>
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One final question: Are we to assume that this message was contained in the cylinder retrieved at the bomb site by Pirate, right after his banana breakfast? If so, this episode is misplaced chronologically.<br>
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