SPECIAL THANKS GO TO THE FOLLOWING WHO HELPED REBUILD THE OLD ORIGINAL jelindem_kmfdm ARCHIVES THAT HAD SINCE BEEN LOST: alone@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (now alone@waste.org) bcherry@indiana.edu ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 05:55:52 -0500 (EST) From: Majordomo@indiana.edu Subject: Welcome to jelindem_kmfdm -- Welcome to the jelindem_kmfdm mailing list! If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to "Majordomo@majordomo.ucs.indiana.edu" with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe jelindem_kmfdm Here's the general information for the list you've subscribed to, in case you don't already have it: [Last updated on: Fri Feb 13 5:44:30 1998] WELCOME... TO THE WORLD OF KMFDM-LISTE! HAPPY TO INTRODUCE YOU TO OUR NEW MAILING LIST... For some unknown reason, no lasting KMFDM mailing list has been created. I'm trying to change that, and perhaps the band will want to as well. If, whose US sales and exposure alone lag far behind KMFDM, already has a mailing list , then why doesn't KMFDM?! The main topics expected to be discussed include KMFDM [of course], Excessive Force, , other side projects [En Esch, etc.] and remixes. Even TKK and Rammstein could come up, due to remixes, touring, and the like. As long as it can be related to KMFDM in some way [now don't run away with this...], it's perfectly acceptable. Expect talk about concert dates, locations, general info, equipment, releases [new, old, rare], favourite tracks/albums, merchandise, new 'members', side projects, band members, and anything else having to do with KMFDM! RULES: the following _do_ apply: --Absolutely NO CHAIN MAIL. Spare us all the trite superstition, please. --If you wish to forward material, try to keep it KMFDM-related. If you think the content is iffy, contact me at . --NO ATTATCHMENT FILES. I don't care what it is, attatchments can be a HASSLE for memory reasons and for people who pay for their internet online time. PLUS, it could contain a virus [i'm not talking about that 'good times' or 'penpal' garbage, but real, possibly infected files]. --CLEAN UP YOUR ADDRESS HEADERS before replying to a post. No one likes to get mail twice or three times. Either send mail to an individual, or . Not both. --REFRAIN FROM EXCESSIVE NON-PERTINENT QUOTING. It is exasperating to see an entire post repeated when you are replying to only a fraction of it. --The list maintainer reserves the right to unsubscribe any individual that does not respect the loose guidelines set forth in the intro. I'm going to watch this one. Spam or flame for no reason, even a few times, i'll have your unsub message waiting for you asap. I don't enjoy kicking people out, but I won't tolerate blatant idotic behavior. --Flame wars and personal arguments are for personal email. Rational discussions, even negative ones, are more than allowed!! --Avoid sending one-liners like "KMFDM ROCKS, MAN!!!!" . *sigh*. --TO UNSUBSCRIBE at any time from this list, mail majordomo@indiana.edu with the subject header blank and the body of the message containing the line "unsubscribe jelindem_kmfdm@indiana.edu" --Enjoy the list. That's what it's here for!! I'm sorry if I come off sounding strict, I've just seen one too many lists get ruined by morons who think harassing a whole list of other people is "fun". I promise that as long as you act intelligently, I'll never get on your case. NOTE: this list is not yet official. We'll wait and see if the band wants to send updates/info or simply to keep in regular, semi-personal contact. In case you didn't know, there is a KMFDM newsgroup, and it is titled alt.music.kmfdm LASTLY: BEFORE YOU ASK ANYTHING, VISIT HTTP://WWW.KMFDM.NET !!!!!!!!!!!!! It might very well already be answered there by the band themselves. RIP THE SYSTEM !!! ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 18:10:08 EST From: SevenzTrip@aol.com Reply-To: jelindem_kmfdm@indiana.edu To: jelindem_kmfdm@indiana.edu Subject: [KMFDM] Finally, A List I just want to thank whoever it was (sorry i forget your name) for taking the time to set up this list......and i really hope this doesn't turn into a non- subject, spamming, flaming list like all the others i have been on......hehe has anyone else subscribed?....speak up if you have Seven..... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 18:28:02 -0500 (EST) From: iSvadrah Reply-To: jelindem_kmfdm@indiana.edu To: jelindem_kmfdm@indiana.edu Subject: [KMFDM] Finally, A List On Fri, 13 Feb 1998 SevenzTrip@aol.com wrote: > I just want to thank whoever it was (sorry i forget your name) for taking the > time to set up this list......and i really hope this doesn't turn into a non- > subject, spamming, flaming list like all the others i have been on......hehe > has anyone else subscribed?....speak up if you have Hey, our first message! I go by iSvadrah, and thanks for the note! I think it would be a good idea, actually, to begin our talk on this list with how everyone got interested in the band [hmm, sounds like AA or something], kmfdm concerts you've seen, favorite personal stories re: the band, etc. Let's see who's out there! So far, after a day of very little advertising, we already have 16 subscribers! Feel free to pass the word along, and I'll continue to promote it... As for the fear of msg flooding, spamming, flaming, etc, I'd like to try and assure everyone I will do my best to supress the wankers that would ruin it for us all... I've seen too many good lists get wrecked. iSvadrah / DJ Rasputin / :RIVET:LIST: and KMFDM LISTE maintainer slave cylinder: http://www.angelfire.com/sc/slavecylinder/ BEDLAM nights: http://http://members.iquest.net/~alyda/venom.html send "subscribe jelindem_rivet" to majordomo@indiana.edu for RIVET send "subscribe jelindem_kmfdm" to majordomo@indiana.edu for KMFDM PS- naming this list in German so it could have 5 letters was completely intentional ;) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 20:28:48 -0500 (EST) From: iSvadrah Reply-To: jelindem_kmfdm@indiana.edu To: KMFDM LISTE Subject: [KMFDM] The Nod from KMFDM ACHTUNG!! I just got an email from Sascha today regarding the mailing list, and in it he said [and I quote]: "i think it's a great idea and i'd be happy for you to set it up. i will make myself available as much as my schedule allows." We now have the support of the band, and i'm awaiting the next reply regarding how connected we'll be in terms of news, info, etc. Just wanted to let everyone know the good news, and I want to see some posting! ;) To get the ball rolling, How does everyone feel about the ever-changing sound of KMFDM? Though I fully agree that change is a powerful and often good thing, I wonder how everyone feels about the change of KMFDM's sound to parallel, though perhaps not intentionally, the current interest in electronic music. Was this change intentional or calculated to succeed based on that interest? Does anyone think that KMFDM feared criticism for heavy use of guitar, especially as it was on XTORT [which is still a great album, IMHO]? This is a great iopportunity to discuss KMFDM's newer sound, as well as help to reveal the musical or instrumental tastes of list members! BTW, list membership today is up well over 25 people, and subbing requests have been coming in all day... Off to a great start! iSvadrah / DJ Rasputin / :RIVET:LIST: and KMFDM-LISTE maintainer slave cylinder: http://www.angelfire.com/sc/slavecylinder/ BEDLAM nights: http://http://members.iquest.net/~alyda/venom.html send "subscribe jelindem_rivet" to majordomo@indiana.edu for RIVET send "subscribe jelindem_kmfdm" to majordomo@indiana.edu for KMFDM ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 23:19:02 -0600 (CST) From: alone@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu Reply-To: jelindem_kmfdm@indiana.edu To: jelindem_kmfdm@indiana.edu Subject: [KMFDM] hi I plan to lurk from now on, but here's some basic information... I didn't get into KMFDM until 1995, but since then I've purchased quite a few of the albums and singles. Other music I listen to includes: Guitar and guitar industrial: Filter, NIN, Three Ton Gate, Course of Empire, , 16volt, Chemlab, Sister Machine Gun, some Ministry, etc. Electronic industrial: Covenant, Haujobb, Individual Totem, Forma Tadre, XMTP, Leaetherstrip, Front Line Assembly, The Electric Hellfire Club, and to a lesser extent Download, Coil, Pigface, C-Tec, ClockDVA... Plus a few other bands in those genres and some bands that lean more toward goth and techno. If anyone wants to see pictures of KMFDM and Rammstein from last year's Austin show, they are at http://ccwf.cc.utexas.edu/~alone/kmfdm.html I also have some items for trade or sale, including the Don't Blow Your Top 12" single (out of print), the Power 12", the Megalomaniac promotional 12", the original Naive CD, and the '84-'86 demos on tape. Please email me if you're interested in any of those. -thomas ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 15:25:12 -0500 From: liquidvirus Reply-To: jelindem_kmfdm@indiana.edu To: jelindem_kmfdm@indiana.edu Subject: [KMFDM] Ramms+ein Just to start some conversation: I was talking to a friend who lived in Germany over the summer and he was telling me about how popular Ramms+ein is in germany. He said that almost every radio station played them. He also said that his friend bought 2 or 3 or thier albums while there. Is anyone familiar with thier discography / material? Imagine if that was possible here in the states. Pop on WBLAH 103.2 and hear them blasting SEHNSUCHT! liquidvirus,.. ' l i q u i d v i r u s d e s i g n s ' --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- - AIM:// LIQvirus - IRC:// LIQvirus (EFnet) - EML:// liquid@waste.org --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- "Without music life would be a mistake." -Nietzche- ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 09:04:59 -0500 From: iSvadrahReply-To: jelindem_kmfdm@indiana.edu Cc: jelindem_kmfdm@indiana.edu Subject: [KMFDM] Sascha's Top 10 of 1997 Newsgroups: alt.music.kmfdm In a recent Allstar article, Sascha named his favourite 10 albums of last year. They were: 1. Rammstein 2. Atari Teenage Riot 3. Shizuo Vs. Shizor 4. EC8OR 5. Fluke 6. Leftfield 7. Sugar Ray 8. Merchenaries 9. Bitch 10. Mark Stewart 8 Maffia [Note: after reading this top 10 on a.m.k., Sascha let us know that it is completely fake and manufactured by Allstar.] Apparently, he's really big on the Digital Hardcore Recordings label right now. Plus he has an Alec Empire quote in his sig file. Could an Empire and/or DHR collaboration with KMFDM be in the works? It has the potential to be some of their most intense, distorted, and politically charged material to date... -- iSvadrah / DJ Rasputin / :RIVET:LIST: and KMFDM-LISTE maintainer slave cylinder: http://www.angelfire.com/sc/slavecylinder/ BEDLAM nights: http://members.iquest.net/~alyda/venom.html send "subscribe jelindem_kmfdm" to majordomo@indiana.edu for KMFDM ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 19:09:46 -0500 From: iSvadrah Reply-To: jelindem_kmfdm@indiana.edu Cc: jelindem_kmfdm@indiana.edu Subject: [KMFDM] KMFDM LINKS [long] Newsgroups: alt.music.kmfdm I tried to collect as many KMFDM and related links as possible, and house them under one roof. I thought posting it to the ng would help, as links can be followed right from the text. There may be falsified pages, and there were omissions, so far mainly in the area of cd/live reviews. Sorry if anyone feels their site was misrepresented. It took many a 4 AM to find and visit/explore each page. Each site is categorized by what i felt it most had to offer. Sorry, this URL list doesn't have a home on the web yet in this form... there are at least 70 LINKS listed, but there are so many more still out there on the net.... Sorry for the often vague descriptions. -iSvadrah ----------------------- KMFDM AND RELATED LINKS ----------------------- [see http://www.waste.org/~isvadrah/kmfdm/kmfdmlinks.html for the most current online version of this list, I won't waste the bandwidth posting the much-outdated original list here. -iSvadrah 04/29/99] ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 15:24:22 -0500 (EST) From: iSvadrah Reply-To: jelindem_kmfdm@indiana.edu To: KMFDM LISTE Subject: [KMFDM] KMFDM LISTE update It's mailbag day from sascha and co. Enjoy! iSvadrah / DJ Rasputin / :RIVET:LIST: and KMFDM LISTE maintainer slave cylinder: http://www.angelfire.com/sc/slavecylinder/ BEDLAM nights: http://members.iquest.net/~alyda/venom.html send "subscribe jelindem_kmfdm" to majordomo@indiana.edu for KMFDM ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 10:02:26 +0000 From: KMFDM To: iSvadrah Subject: Re: KMFDM LISTE update btw, i found out more about traCi's death. she was on her way from tokyo to osaka when her jet (some small jet-engine plane she piloted) exploded. the case is under strictest investigations right now, it might have been sabotage ... -- sascha ----- "a real underground is invisible, it's impossible to define it, because it's feeding back all the time, it's constantly changing." -alec empire- "dieses ist Kostenzähler-Kultur von der unterirdischen eternal Umdrehung, die dieses unser stichhaltiges kmfdm ist, das besser als das beste megalomaniacal ist und stark als der Rest." -sascha k.- "napalm yes - cream pies no" -ulrike meinhof- http://www.KMFDM.net http://www.KMFDM.com http://KMFDM.net http://KMFDM.com