Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 13:39:52 -0600 (CST) From: Olivia Xymoron Reply-To: management@omitted To: darkside@omitted Subject: This list is moving This is just a quick note to let you know thatthis list along with most of the other community lists on WASTE have been sold to the eGroups division of Yahoo!. They plan to integrate them into their "cultures & community" offering. The lists will be down temporarily for the transfer and another note will be sent out when it's back online though messages sent during the interim should be queued. Our contract with Yahoo! stipulates that they will not use these lists for target marketting nor will they provide personal information to third parties. Their privacy policy is online at privacy.yahoo.com/privacy/us/. If you have any questions about this, feel free to drop us a line at management@omitted. Oxymoron WASTE Management ps: Yahoo's privacy statement is at -- "Love the dolphins," she advised him. "Write by W.A.S.T.E.." 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ABOUT THIS LIST The darkside list can be used for any type of announcement, advertisement, or discussions related to events that are happening in the twin cities or surrounding areas. Since we all know that there will never be enough goth stuff happening in this area to support a fully "goth only" emailing list, this list is also open to experimental electronic, ambient and darkwave types of music, as well as art, literature, current events and anything else that you would think that others with similar tastes would like to read about. For more details, see http://groups.yahoo.com/group/darkside Alan Sokol Yahoo! Groups -- Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ PROM 2001 - What Will You Be Wearing? Hot Topic has the styles that you've been looking for! Check out our online deals at http://hottopic.com!! Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 00:09:22 -0600 From: Mirko M. Hall To: darkside@yahoogroups.com Subject: yahoo! and darkwave? oliviax's announcement should not be a surprise: the corporatization - and rampant globalization - of the 'dark (sub)culture' began many years ago [this is just another chapter in an already mundane book]. ------------------------------------------ Right on, c'mon What we got to say Power to the people no delay To make everybody see In order to fight the powers that be (Fight the power) -- Chuck D, Blackman and Lyrical Terrorist _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ PROM 2001 - What Will You Be Wearing? Hot Topic has the styles that you've been looking for! Check out our online deals at http://hottopic.com!! Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 04:50:16 -0500 (CDT) From: Robin Ahna To: Darkside Subject: Where's Frankie? I was just wondering....does anyone know whatever happened to Frankie Goes To Hollywood? Are they still recording? Man, what I wouldn't give to see them live. Speaking of which, would Two Tribes qualify for HardCore Mondays? If so, consider this a request! tanx! -- Rahna _none can change in me these things that i believe_ -- Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ PROM 2001 - What Will You Be Wearing? Hot Topic has the styles that you've been looking for! Check out our online deals at http://hottopic.com!! Date: Sun, 1 Apr 01 10:26:44 -0500 From: Joshua Gunn To: Darkside Subject: Gruftie Research, Revisited Hi Y'all. Curious about opinions/answers to the following questions: 1. In the "darkside" scene, what is a "beautiful" goth? 2. In the "darkside" scene, what is the ideal body type? -- Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ PROM 2001 - What Will You Be Wearing? Hot Topic has the styles that you've been looking for! Check out our online deals at http://hottopic.com!! Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 22:12:17 -0500 From: Velvet Shark To: management@omitted, Subject: Re: This list is moving ----- Original Message ----- From: Olivia Xymoron To: Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 2:39 PM Subject: This list is moving > This is just a quick note to let you know thatthis list along > with most of the other community lists on WASTE have been sold to the > eGroups division of Yahoo!. They plan to integrate them into their > "cultures & community" offering. The lists will be down temporarily for > the transfer and another note will be sent out when it's back online > though messages sent during the interim should be queued. > Oh, that's white. Don't even give anyone the chance to maybe keep the list private and maybe run it on their own server, or possibly put it through another mailing service--just sell the damn thing for a quick fix like a 5 dollar Chicago whore. Jesus, you should feel ashamed. It must feel good to prostitute something that didn't really belong to you, or WASTE, anyway. velvetshark@omitted Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 23:33:34 -0500 From: Velvet Shark To: Velvet Shark , , Subject: Re: This list is moving ----- Original Message ----- > > -- > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > PROM 2001 - What Will You Be Wearing? Hot Topic has the styles that you've > been looking for! Check out our online deals at http://hottopic.com!! > Oh, and I *LOVE* the above... Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 23:22:28 -0500 (CDT) From: Oderint dom Metuant To: The Dollhouse of Her Skull Subject: Re: This list is moving > Oh, that's white. Don't even give anyone the chance to maybe keep the > list private and maybe run it on their own server, or possibly put it > through another mailing service--just sell the damn thing for a quick fix > like a 5 dollar Chicago whore. Jesus, you should feel ashamed. It must > feel good to prostitute something that didn't really belong to you, or > WASTE, anyway. 1) I'm not going to jump on Oxymoron for this, because what's the point? It's over and done with. Instead of bitching, start the list elsewhere. 2) Careful, I think you just violated the terms of service. 3) ...maybe Goth Twin-Cities' idea wasn't that bad. > PROM 2001 - What Will You Be Wearing? Hot Topic has the styles that you've > been looking for! Check out our online deals at http://hottopic.com!! 4) This is beyond repugnant. legion -- "Such little work to create So immemorial a state of being" -psychopop "welcome to the pleasure dome." *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* "My landlady was sick this morning, and I couldn't remember whether you're s'posed to feed a fever and starve a cold, or if it's the other way around. I know one thing for sure, though...You can't drown a cold." -Bug-eyed Earl, in "Red Meat Comics" by Max Cannon -- Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ PROM 2001 - What Will You Be Wearing? Hot Topic has the styles that you've been looking for! Check out our online deals at http://hottopic.com!! Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 23:31:08 -0500 (CDT) From: Erin J Warhol To: the Backside Cc: management@omitted, darkside@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: This list is moving If I thought it would hurt anyone's business or FUCK any of you goddam pansies in any way, I would say: "FUCK YOU CORPORATE WHORES I'M SIGNING OFF THE LIST" But, if anything we stood for meant a shit in the first place, we wouldn't be sold off like discount sheep in Ireland. Contemplative Navels mutter... I'm waiting now to be kicked off the list for VULGARITY, as per the Yahoo members policy. There has got to be another place for us darksiders to roam, not YAHOO for crying out loud. Does anyone else feel dirty sending deep (or not so deep) dark thoughts to a YAHOO address? -Blitzkrieg .--,_ / ,/ / / // / / // / .' ' ( / \.-"""-._ / a ' . ' `-. ( . ' " `. `-.-' " ' ; `.' " . .-' " ; : . .' ; `. ' : ' ' ; ) _.". " . "; .'_.' .' ' __.,`. '" ""''---'` "' ******************* Banging your head against a wall uses 150 calories an hour. ******************* Schadenfreude ******************* -- Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ PROM 2001 - What Will You Be Wearing? Hot Topic has the styles that you've been looking for! Check out our online deals at http://hottopic.com!! Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 23:53:43 -0500 From: Oinos To: management@omitted, darkside@omitted Subject: RE: This list is moving > Our contract with Yahoo! stipulates that they will not use these lists for > target marketting nor will they provide personal information to third > parties. Maybe it's just me, but doesn't the following scream target marketing? > -- > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > PROM 2001 - What Will You Be Wearing? Hot Topic has the styles that > you've been looking for! Check out our online deals at http://hottopic.com!! -- Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ PROM 2001 - What Will You Be Wearing? Hot Topic has the styles that you've been looking for! Check out our online deals at http://hottopic.com!! Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 00:06:30 -0500 (CDT) From: Alan Sokol To: darkside@yahoogroups.com Subject: List owner introduction Hi folks. As your new list owner, I figure I ought to introduce myself. My name is Alan Sokol. Right now I'm a professor of physics at NYU. My best-known work involves experiments in cultural studies. If that kind of thing is your fancy, check out: http://www.physics.nyu.edu/faculty/sokal/#papers So, you ask, what's a well-known physicist from the east coast doing running a Minneapolis goth mailing list for Yahoo? Answer: I dig chicks in vinyl. Oh wait, that's not right. I mean, yes, I do, who doesn't, right? What I really meant to say was you're all a bunch of suckers. Though I must say that the moral outrage at being sold out really warms my heart. Truly. I'm just disappointed that no one called me up to scream "what the fuck are you thinking?!!!" If you didn't figure out what was going on and you still didn't get upset, shame on you. Of course no good prank is without its completely innocent bystanders. The poor Star Wars geeks I mentioned earlier at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/darkside are probably completely baffled by now. Probably best to stop sending them messages. Send all further flames to management@omitted, I'm putting together a lovely collection. We now return you to your regularly scheduled deprogramming. Love, Oxymoron WASTE Management -- "Love the dolphins," she advised him. "Write by W.A.S.T.E.." [The above was pretty easy to pull off. Temporarily change the list configuration to moderated, forge a couple mail headers, cut and paste a bunch of legalese, spice it up to be more provocative, and then wait for the fun to start. Oh, and a heads-up to the actual list owner: "The list has been sold to eGroups." "Uh.. ok..?" "Tee hee." Of course, to make this work, I had to embargo all the messages from would-be spoilsports to be released when the hoax was revealed:] Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 18:59:13 -0500 (CDT) From: jw@omitted To: Alan Sokol Cc: darkside@yahoogroups.com, darkside@omitted Subject: Re: Welcome to Darkside! > 5. ABOUT THIS LIST > > The darkside list can be used for any type of announcement, > advertisement, or discussions related to events that are happening in > the twin cities or surrounding areas. Since we all know that there > will never be enough goth stuff happening in this area to support a > fully "goth only" emailing list, this list is also open to > experimental electronic, ambient and darkwave types of music, as well > as art, literature, current events and anything else that you would > think that others with similar tastes would like to read about. > > For more details, see http://groups.yahoo.com/group/darkside The description at that link comes no where close to matching the description you just emailed to the list: "Category: Science Fiction and Fantasy Description: A star wars mailing list that concentrates on the darker characters and situations." - JW -- o-------------------------o | jw@omitted | | http://www.visi.com/~jw | o-------------------------o Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 18:57:54 -0500 From: Scott Raleigh To: darkside@omitted Subject: Re: yahoo! and darkwave? > oliviax's announcement should not be a surprise: the corporatization - and > rampant globalization - of the 'dark (sub)culture' began many years ago > [this is just another chapter in an already mundane book]. > This has got to be an april fools joke! But if it is, its really well done. Already text ads (prom@hottopic?!) and the to: address is darkside@yahoogroups.com Yahoo already snagged up another list I'm on a few weeks back. I hate feeling like I'm being bought and sold. -- gr3y@omitted Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 23:43:25 -0500 (CDT) From: Erin J Warhol To: the Backside Cc: the Backside Subject: Re: This list is moving April fools I hope. Otherwise, some one has a SICK sense of humor. And for once, that's not a good thing. -Blitzkrieg .--,_ / ,/ / / // / / // / .' ' ( / \.-"""-._ / a ' . ' `-. ( . ' " `. `-.-' " ' ; `.' " . .-' " ; : . .' ; `. ' : ' ' ; ) _.". " . "; .'_.' .' ' __.,`. '" ""''---'` "' ******************* Banging your head against a wall uses 150 calories an hour. ******************* Schadenfreude *******************