deaths in GR&elsewhere
Tim Ware
timware at crl.com
Tue Mar 14 19:53:06 CST 1995
Responding to Aaron's post, I think von Braun's epigraph supports the
contention that GR DOES allow death, but also "the continuity of our
spiritual existence after death." I do agree that the way death is
portrayed is, however, in a non-binary fashion; one isn't simply either
dead or alive, but dead, alive or in the next world.
TW
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ timware at crl.com
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On Tue, 14 Mar 1995, Aaron Yeater wrote:
> hi. i've been listening for a while, but this is my first
> contribution, if you can call it such...
>
> i've been rereading vineland, and noticing the status of death
> therein. some characters are 'unkillable,' like Vond, the
> Roadrunner, eluding death confidently. others, from Takeshi on down,
> are in various 'stages' of death, the Thanatoids being "like death,
> only different." No one is really dead-no one ever dies (like tv,
> kinda?) perhaps what TRP presents is the end of death, the
> breakdown of the 1 and 0 into something more
> complicated--transformation. but into what? is it salvation,
> immortality, the ultimate promise of the conspiracy? or dissolution,
> entropy? thus in GR people don't die, they disappear, cross over,
> form and reform, and if transformation does not take place (as von
> Braun tells us in the epigraph it always will) then there is
> dissolution, hopelessness, chaos. and the pynchonian dilemma
> remains: will you be 'part of the system', choosing to sacrifice your
> will and individuality to the 'grand design' for salvation of your
> soul? or will you fight cooptation by the conspiracy and in stead
> simply fall apart, dissolve, collapse, be crushed by pessimism?
>
> anyway, my $.02. if inappropriate, i apologize in advance.
>
> aaron yeater
> kennedy school of guv
>
>
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