Hello?

[RedBug]

Hi Steely:

A great reply. You have a delightful sense of humor. 

But I think you know what I meant. When it reaches the pissing stage,
please (as my wife sez) kindly close the door.

Later,

RedBug

On Sun, 22 Dec 1996, Steelhead wrote:

> First things first in responding to this post from RedBug. Your (X-sender)
> domaine name reads "shellx." Is this part of the Shell Oil Company, that
> figures so demonically in GR, and has only recently admitted its complicity
> (by wasting the Niger River Delta under a toxic muck of hydrocarbons and
> benzene and helping to arm the death squads under Gen. Sani Abacha) in the
> genocide against the Ogoni people in Nigeria and the execution of writer
> and environmentalist Ken Saro-WiWa? Or is it merely the hyper-artistic
> "shell" of your software? Detecting minds want to know. It might explain
> something I've been curious about.
> 
> >I read this post from Jeff St. Clair (aka Steelhead)...
> 
> Are you the Philip Agee (who I am a great admirer of, of course) of this
> list? Or what? Why would someone who posts under a pseudonym "out" someone
> else who posts under a nom de plume, eh? Hiding something RedBug?
> 
> >I followed this thread and S's
> >vicious, ad
> >hominem attack on Ms. York
> 
> The attack was neither vicious nor ad hominem. Ms. Blaine had insulted me,
> her students, poor Jules, and--worst of all--the Text of GR with her
> ridiculous, how did she phrase it?...oh, yes, feminist pedagogy. When
> students at NTU are forced to take her classes, paying good money that they
> don't have and will never get back, do they really know *this* is what
> they're getting into?
> 
> Taking classes in the humanities these days is like the helpless Eric Idle
> in that old Monty Python skit. "Is this the room for abuse?" "No, you
> moron, this is the room for an argument!" And on and on.
> 
> >This is a fairly old tactic of the Steelheaded one,
> >to enter a discussion, or perhaps dangle a provoking, extremely binary
> >opinion,
> 
> Say, I'm missing a few pages in my copy of Norbert Wiener's Cybernetics.
> What the hell is a "binary opinion?"
> 
> > and then if everyone doesn't fall into his line, steps up the
> >insults and name-calling (Steely's got the act of naming DOWN, my friends),
> >slips comfortably into hyper-demonizing and then, when someone throws a
> >little cold water in his face, slinks away for a couple of months
> 
> "Slinks away." I love that. Lil' RedBug, anyone tell you that you've got a
> way with words. The phrase is so reptillian. It's something for a trout to
> aspire to on that ole Darwinian ladder--I mean branch. Yes, I did retreat
> to lick my wounds, venture out into the world (not this one, the Other),
> press the flesh (not necessarily the Devil's) and do some real writing
> (though no Testament's to date).
> 
> >I like this group and find SH vastly more intolerable than even the
> >fabled Koopman.
> 
> Yes, I, too, miss Koopman. But read that sentence again. Is this what you
> would call a "nonbinary" or wholistic opinion?
> 
> >There's a lesson, dear Steely, in that book we all admire so much,
> >regarding Kindness.
> 
> What book is that? Jonathan Livingston Seagull? The Celestine Prophecies,
> perhaps. Surely, not GR, which contains "lessons" (are you a real
> professor...or do you just play one on the Internet?) about Kindness, sure,
> but also about the power (for the powerless, in particular--students,
> preterites, proles, housewives, prisoners, lefties--ie., the left
> out--privates, teens) of low puns, bad jokes, harsh invective, blasphemy,
> obscenity, sedition, etc. Particularly when you can prick pretension.  As
> Mr. P, writing in drag as Wanda T, said, quoting Voltaire, Ecrasez
> l'Infame!
> 
> >You once cleverly retorted when you were awhile back
> >accused of in danger of being perceived as an asshole (when you made
> >derogatory remarks about anyone who would read and enjoy DFW's IJ), that
> >you saw yourself as Pig Bodine. You remind me much more of a left-wing
> >Major Marvy.
> 
> TOO--SHAY! That's who I aspire to be all right, a left-wing Major Marvy.
> Che on steroids (No, not to look like that bulky Antonio Bandares in Evita,
> what a crime...Che was only 16 at the time). Just call me D-u-u-W-A-Y-N-E.
> Say is my voice?..uhmm..yes...yes, it does seem to be just a few octaves
> higher...oh no...They didn't...how could They! Waitaminute...This isn't so
> bad. No, there are advantages to this Situtation. In fact, it's pretty
> fine. When I cross my legs...Get that Pedro Almodovar on the line. I think
> I'm just right for a role in his new flick....
> 
> >Substitute your name for Ms. Blaine's. It's a remarkable fit.
> 
> But is it orgasmic?
> 
> Steely
> 
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