Rosebud (was AH & TRP)
Henry M
gravity at nicom.com
Tue Jan 14 17:15:01 CST 1997
Here, here! (Where, where? There, there!) But don't send me that
kid's paper. It's wrong! The only emptiness in the search for Rosebud
is that it is the search for some else's loss.
> Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 17:41:25 -0500
> From: ckaratnytsky at nypl.org
> Subject: Rosebud (was AH & TRP)
> To: pynchon-l at waste.org
> My buddy Mascaro goes off the deep end:
>
> >We do tend to inject, say, Kane's stupid rosebud with heavy symbolic
> >significance, but a student of mine just wrote me a nice paper
> >showing that rosebud too is a McGuffin.
>
> Now hold on thar, Babalouie. I was with you when you said that Pynchon
> took the McGuffin to a deeper level than Hitchcock etc. etc., but, "stoopid
> rosebud?" C'mon, John, Rosebud's as much a symbol of sweet, sad loss
> remembered in repose as the Fire of Paradise. (Forget about it bein' a
> spectacularly audacious tweak by boy-genius Welles on William Randolph
> Hearst's showgirl lovin' nose. C-cunts, anyone?) The difference between
> Rosebud and a MacGuffin is that, if one is successfully able to follow the
> quest to its source, the meaning of the symbol *will* become apparent, the
> answer *will* be found. It must be so, because Citizen Kane is, in part, a
> cautionary tale (and Rosebud is its leitmotif) that traces Kane's losses
> over the years beginning with his separation from his mother. There's no
> argument from me that it's the viewer of the film -- and not the reporter
> -- that makes these connections (so, I guess, in that sense, Rosebud *does*
> lead to nowhere), but the connections get made, Johnny. The same is *not*
> true of, say, Stencil's quest, or Oedipa's.
>
> Send me that kid's paper. I want to read it.
>
> Third post of the day. Must be those Wheaties.
>
> Chris
>
>
My mother was of the sky... -- JL
My mother is the war...
Keep cool, but care. -- TRP
Moderation in moderation. -- Husky Mariner
Not having that, which having... :-|
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