Meshugginah posts, and other things sundry

[Doug Millison]

Well said, Sojourner.

At 3:28 PM 7/7/97, Sojourner wrote:
>At 01:48 PM 7/7/97 -0500, Jules Siegel wrote:
>
><cut a bunch of stuff about Hitler and his art>
>
>>
>>Ultimately, I see Hitler as a satirist. The concentration camps were
>>conceptual art at its most compelling. He held industrial society up to a
>>mirror and reduced it to its most horrible essence.
>>
>>The first poison used to kill Jews was carbon monoxide in the form of
>>automobile exhaust. Hitler's only lasting achievements were the Volkswagen
>>and the Autobahn. (Well, I guess you have to count ballistic missiles and
>>jet planes, too, even though they don't quite fit the metaphor.) Today, we
>>are our own SS. We buy our own gas chambers and we gather in our own
>>concentration camps, which we call cities, and, like the pathetic Jews who
>>fashioned their own imitations of SS uniforms and then brutalized weaker
>>inmates, we dress up in executive three-button suits and sneer at the
>>homeless slobs drifting about the streets without taste and style,
>>indistinguishable from garbage except by greater motility.
>
>
>Folks lets have a vote.  Here's what I'm looking for when I get Pynchon-l
>email.  Just vote aye or nay if you agree with me.
>
>1) Actual discussion of works of TRP, including but not limited to quotes,
>passages, characters, references etc.
>
>2) Following the above with actual linear threads, which while soon become
>very off-topic of TRP, can be traced back to a #1.
>
>
>If you vote aye, this means you are AGAINST sweeping generalizations about
>periods of time, peoples, cultures etc.  Arguments and flames are not the
>problem, its the degradation of threads into statements such as the above.
>
>We are not gathered here (cybernetically) to expound our own writings, or
>to use this as a forum for essay writing.  We're here to have discussions
>and analysis, at which the center is clearly TRP.  Of course, all things
>can be related in some fashion to another, so yes of course nothing is
>excluded.  It's not an objective filter I'm hoping to form, but rather a
>consensus on what our attitude/frame of mind is going to be with these list.
>
>Or, as I say it in a more simplified manner: let's not get into
>communication breakdown mode.  IOW, say something you can get your teeth
>around, and then let the other guy (or woman) have their chew at it.  The
>paragraph I quoted is amorphous beyond belief.
>
>WARNING:  This is just my opinion.  I do not presume to speak for anyone,
>known or unknown, dead or alive, or anyone bearing any characteristics or
>similarities to any other person, unless specifically named or identified.
>
>SECOND WARNING:  If you feel the need to frame my responses into the facts
>of my life, please e-mail me first and I will be glad to let you in on any
>relevant bio information.  I AM NOT A LIBRARIAN!
>
>REPEAT I AM NOT A LIBRARIAN OF ANY SORT, SHAPE OR MANNER.


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