Alice in Wonderland
Byrnes Weir
weir at interlog.com
Tue Jul 15 20:50:24 CDT 1997
At 06:14 PM 7/15/97 -0500, David Dasinger wrote:
>Alan Westrope wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 15 Jul 1997, David Dasinger wrote:
>>
>> >C. Mingus
>> >..."Well Charles, that certainly was a personal expression"
>>
>> Well, to be pedantic and off-topic again (hey, what else is new?),
>
>Sorry, but M&D contains some imagery that I consider to be reminiscent
>of "Alice", and I listen to Mingus alot, Joni recorded a
>Mingus album, so...
>
>> this is actually what *Ellington* said *to* Mingus while firing him
>> over the Juan Tizol episode, nicht wahr?
>
>Although he credits "Dr. Wallach" with the quote, you are probably
>correct, since it comes from his autobiography, which contains
>alot of "bullschitt".
>from "Beneath the Underdog":
>
>"...Oh damn it all blues. Screwed to the melting frozen walk of
>dared-to-embrace stone, concrete hard, imagined soft only to overdue
>erections of lonliness that turned feminine and speaks back wet,
>warm tears, not too far removed from it's common denominator,
>iced urine melting at dared hot death that clings to life for
>love at thought of some response, be it only the clay, dirt or
>pavement I behold in my drunken search for a true woman's groin,
>wanting me as I want her, to never hate me because we found refuge
>of satisfaction as two drunken stones warmed themselves side by side,
>in outside our guttered ideas of oppisite sides fucking.
>Do you understand that poem, Doctor Wallach?"
>
>"Weird Nightmare", a Mingus tribute, has Robbie Robertson reading this
>piece as well as appearances by Leonard Cohen, Elvis Costello,
>Henry Rollins and Diamanda Galas. I thought it made excellent back-
>ground music for reading GR. (or V.)
>Anybody Know if Pynchon is a Mingus fan?
>DD
>(who needs to get back to work and quit daydreaming about Joni
>Mitchell and octuple gloucesters)
>
i'm trying
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