You say Liebach, I say Laibach...

[Vaska]

In response to David Dasinger's post:

David, I'm not sure this is of any interest to other memebers of the list,
so if you want we can continue this conversation off-list, but since you
asked and one of the Laibach members answered the question "are you guys
Nazis" [what reponse did you expect?] by casting the band's
self-presentation as an essentially provocative "radical" act, here's a
quote from an interview posted on their website: 

LAIBACH: ...happiness lies in the total denial of one's human identity, in
people's consciously waiving their personal tastes, beliefs, judgments, in
their free depersonalization, in their ability to make sacrifices, to
identify themselves with a higher, superior system with the masses, the
collective, the ideology.

One doesn't have to have been born in Europe to recognize and identify this
language for what it is.    

>They refuse to make overt political statements, ie;"nazi's are
>bad, ethnic cleansing sucks", 

David, could you send me, privately, a transcript of the interview you did
with Laibach [if you have it, that is]: I'm truly curious to know why anyone
from a part of former Yugoslavia might refuse to say that "ethnic cleansing
sucks" [or that Nazis weren't exactly a bunch of nice guys, for that matter].  

>The NSK at that time had just formed an entity that is essentially
>a state without borders, issuing passports, even opening an embassy
>in Russia. (they wouldn't let them establish one here)

Did they *tell* you this or is this a hazy recollection?  You see, the
country in question was Germany: and some info on that, too, is on the
Internet.  But not on their site, as far as I could see, although I might
have missed it as I didn't spend too much time on it this afternoon.

Vaska