AIDS & Conspiracy Stuff??

[Jules Siegel]

At 02:30 PM 06/11/97 -0400, jester <jester at snet.net> wrote:

>are there cases of AIDS that do not have HIV?

Many. They fall into three classes:

[1] Those who show HIV antibodies but no virus.

[2] Those who have neither the antibodies nor the virus.

[3] Those who never been tested but have been diagnosed clinically. I
believe that when I wrote the document, 50% of all diagnosed AIDS cases had
never been tested.

>If so, are they just not called AIDS because of that, or what?

When I wrote my document, they were called AIDS. I believe that I read last
year that the CDC had come up with a new disease name to cover some of them.

>perhaps somewhat in jest, to equate the idea of HIV spontaneously appearing
in the body as a result of AIDS (which according to Jules' article is a
result of exposure to certain mutagens over a long period of time -- am I
getting this right, Jules?)

No. It's not easy to be infected by HIV. You definitely can't get it from
casual contact. Even exchanging body fluids is an unlikely route. You get
HIV from infected blood, whether from contaminated transfusions or sharing
needles. There is a very remote possibility that it can enter through rectal
intercourse as a result of damages to the rectal tissue. The vector,
however, would have to be in the acute stage of the HIV infection, when the
virus could be present in the semen.

I use remote to qualify this because even in the cases of individuals known
to be infected and showing actual virus in their systems, so little virus is
found in the semen that it is difficult to understand how it could cause an
infection.

Although there appear to have been many docmented cases of diseases that
either were or resembled AIDS in the past, HIV (and AIDS) was first
prominently noticed in bathhouse prostitutes in San Francisco who had more
than 2,000 lifetime sexual contacts and were heavy users of amyl nitrate,
cocaine, heroin and other chemical drugs as well as massive doses of
antibotics. They had repeated sexually transmitted diseases. They were also
malnourished and living a very dangerous personal life-style.

AIDS is simply a fancy word for describing the failure of the immune system.
My opinion, and that of many others much more expert than I and qualified to
talk about it, is that the HIV infection is simply another result of the
failure of the immune system. 

>with theories of early medicine and biology where the theory of spontaneous
generation were staus quo -- before Louis Pasteur came along and discovered
germs.

Koch and the Scientific Method are equally important, but, yes, this is
exactly what the position of the AIDS/HIV people breaks down to one examined
according the rules of conventional germ theory. AIDS/HIV fails all four
tests of the Scientific Method. Their answer to this is that the Scientific
Method is passé.


--Jules Siegel Apdo 1764 Cancun QR 77501
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