Radicalism of reading
David Casseres
casseres at apple.com
Mon May 5 17:41:13 CDT 1997
[I wrote, regarding "argot," "cant," and "patois"]
>>But all of these -- well, at least the first two -- are derogatory, and
>>none of them is used by people who actually study the variations of
>>language.
Joshua Fruhlinger sez
>Gee...I seem to remember learning the word "argot" in my linguistics and
>sociology texts at the University of Chicago.
And did they say it was a word for any form of English? I may be wrong
about the usage of these words by linguists and sociologists, but all the
Net traffic I've seen lately from linguists about the "Ebonics" question
has stuck to terms like "language subclass."
In common usage, I've never heard "patois" for much of anything except
the French-based language spoken in vaious parts of the Caribbean.
"Argot" and "cant" I have never heard used except as derogatory terms,
e.g. "thieves' argot" or "politicians' cant."
In any case, what the linguists are calling Ebonics is "a language
system."
Cheers,
David
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