MDMD(8) Questions

Sojourner sojourner at vt.edu
Fri Sep 12 08:25:01 CDT 1997


At 08:47 AM 9/12/97 EDT, Christine Karatnytsky wrote:

>229.3 `glaur' as mentioned in MDMD(7)  Meaning ???  (AD)
>

>From the Oh Eee Dee:

glaur, glave, vars. glar, glaive

glaive gleiv, sb. Also 3-6 gleyve, (6 gleive, glieve), 4-6, 9 dial. gleve,
6-7, 9 dial. gleave, 9 dial. gleeve; 4
gla(y)fe, 4-6 glayve, (6 Sc. glaif), 5-7 glave. [a. OFr. glaive, gleive
lance (mod.Fr. glaive poet. = sword).
Hatz-Darm. regard OFr. glaive as an adapted form of L. gladius (through the
stages gladie, glaie, glavie). Ascoli
supposes it to represent a Celtic *cladivo- (OIr. claideb sword, Gael.
claidheamh). Neither view, however,
accounts for the earliest meaning of the word in OFr. , which is also that
of MHG. glavîe, glævîn, MDutch glavie,
glaye, Sw. glaven. ] A name given at different periods to three distinct
kinds of weapons, viz. lance, bill, and sword.
The second of these senses seems to be peculiar to English, the others are
derived from French; in a large number of
passages it is impossible to determine from the context which weapon is
intended, esp. in the case of later writers.

or

glar, glaur glar, glor, , sb. Sc. and north. dial. Also glair, gloar. [Of
unknown origin; cf. next vb. and ONor.
leir mud.] Slime, mud. 

(forgivememotherasidonothavemymanddwithmeandcannot*see*thereference)

>229.20 `all in a G-dawful Uproar'  G-dawful???  (AD)

I think this refers to Exodus 20:7

Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will
not hold him guiltless that taketh
his name in vain.

>231.35 `Cudgel and Throck'  Sh OED does not list Throck ???  (AD)

>From oh Fiddle dee Oh eee dee:

throck þrokrok. dial. [OE. þroc, of unknown origin.] In full plough-throck:
The share-beam; = ploughhead

1688 R. Holme Armoury iii. 333/2 The Throck [of a Plow] is the piece of
Timber on which the Suck
     is fixed. 

maybe similar to a cudgel here?  As in a piece of stovewood thats
good for thrashing people?

>
>232.35 - 233.2  "In the days of the '45,--guessing that the Young
>Pretender would travel everywhere he could by way of those secret Tunnels
>known to Papists from ancient times, which ran from most parish Churches
>away to other points of interest..."  What's all this about?  Who's the
>Young Pretender? 

maybe the BPC thing?  My english history is too muddles to know.

>
>233.25 `all bearing true as an Italian Miner's Compas'  Are these
>underground passages related to Ley lines?  (AD)
>

Maybe the best ones were made by Italians?  Don't know but
the Skip to my OEdarling says:

use there the needles of dialles touched with the loadstone, stand directly
North. 

     1642 Rogers Naaman 830 The needle of the Diall set just on the North
point..shakes not.

     b. Mining. A miner's compass for underground surveying.


>233.31  "master'd the arts of Pluto"  What might they be?  How would they
>be mastered?
>  

From:

http://www.clubi.ie/lestat/ofgodsh.html#Hadeslink

HADES 
Also known as Pluto,or Aides,he was the dark,grim god of the underworld,and
ruled supreme there. He was a son
of Rhea,and like his brothers Zeus and Poseidon,demanded a share of the
Earth following the overthrow of Kronos.
The three siblings cast lots,and to Hades fell the world below. His domain
was a bleak one:the three rivers running
along its environs were named Styx,Acheron (the river of eternal
woe),Pyriplegethon (the stream of fire), Kokytos
(the river of weeping and wailing) and Lethe (the river of forgetfulness).
Once someone had passed over into the
realm of Hades,there was no return (except in the case of Orpheus.
Charon,the aged boatman of the dead,ferried
the souls of the departed across the river Styx,which flowed into Hades,and
once there they were received by
Hades and his wife,Persephone. 

The lord of the dead had carried off Persephone from the world
above,smitten with her beauty and deaf to the cries
of her mother,Demeter. Indeed,when Demeter finally found her
daughter,Persephone explained that she had eaten of
a pomegranate that Hades had given her,and could never return to the upper
world. The entrance to Hades was
guarded by the triple-headed dog Cerberus,and for those who had led
reasonably righteous lives,the afterlife in the
underworld was a sort of shadow of their former life,where they could
continue to perform the labours and carry on
the occupations they had occupied in life. Occasionally,a shade might be
allowed to return temporarily to the world
above,as a ghost,to their friends,or even summoned by the sacrifice of
blood which,when drank by the
shade,restored to them partial speech and consciousness,so that they could
discourse with the living. 

But for those who had lefd wicked lives---or lives the gods did not agree
with---there was the realm of
Tartaros,where all the sins and evils the departed had practiced in the
world above were punished,usually in a
manner symbolic of their crime. Cases in point here were
Tantalos,Ixion,Sisyphos,Tityos and the Danaides,all of
whom can be found under their own separate entries,so we will not go into
their punishment here. 

There also existed in Tartaros Elysion,where the happy and the blessed were
received,and which approximates as
closely to the Christian ideal of Heaven as is possible,showing that
Hades,though dark and forbidding,was not all
doom and gloom,punishment and revenge. Hades and Persephone were also seen
to be judges of the dead,and in
this capacity they were assisted by three heroes whose earthly deeds had
identified them as great in wisdom and
justice. They were called Minos,Rhadamanthys and Aeakos,the last also being
the gatekeeper of the lower region of
Hades. 

no clue what the arts of PLuto might be, but this is a good starting place.

>234.35 `Funnel-Cake' ???  (AD)

Come now funnel cake?  This is eaten in the US at almost
every fair or carnival.  

>236.8 `Bourquelet and Nynauld' ???  (AD)

mebbe this?

An often-repeated story concerned a lone man attacked at night by a lone
wolf, which he wounded, usually by
cutting off a forepaw. Next day a woman would be found with her hand
missing, which identified her as the
werewolf. Such an incident was reported as fact by Jean de Nynauld in 1615;
the woman in the case was burned
alive. The story probably recommended itself to some men as a perfect way
to dispose of a woman they had
mistreated, such as a rape victim. 

from: http://www.therianthrope.org/ahww/faqone.html



>241.30 - 241.31  "I'm but getting on with it, Jeremiah,--and so ought
>thee..."  Where have we heard these words before?
>



>242.5 `Humlock' ???  (AD)

OED says its just a variant of "hemlock" ala Socratic fame

>243.18 `riding atop a Huddock' ???  (AD)

oh boy all I found was weird weird:

"Stern-shuts, the place aft in a `keel' where the `huddock' is placed."

>243.23 `young Dodd, the Peedee' ???  (AD)
>

This makes much more sense:

pedee, pedie pi.di. Obs. exc. dial. Also 7 paddee, pedee, pedy, 7-9 peedee
pi:di., 9 P.D. [Derivation
uncertain: several early writers associate the word with L. pes, pedem
foot, pede on foot.] A serving-lad, footboy,
groom; in 19th c., on the River Tyne, the boy on board a keel. 

maybe a goof on usage?

>243.27 `Tagareen Man' ???  (AD)

Once again, from the Old English Dog:

tagarene-man, the keeper of a marine store, esp. one who visits ships in
dock or harbour with a boatful of wares
for exchange. 

>251.27  "Bombazines"?
>

ahh so nice:

antherine. Obs. 8. Also anterne. [? f. Gr. anqhr-oj flowery,
bright-coloured + -ine.] A kind of poplin,
now obsolete. 

     1710 Lond. Gaz. mmmmdcclxxxvii/4 A green strip'd Poplin Mantua and
Petticoat, lined with a white
     Antherine. 

     1719 J. Roberts Spinster 346 Stuffs mixed with silk..antherines and
bombazines. 

also ref:

puleray. Obs. rare-1. ? Name of an obsolete fabric of silk or silk and
worsted. 

     1719 [ Steele] Spinster 346 Many woollen stuffs, and stuffs mixed with
silk, and even silks themselves
     are..laid aside;..some of them are quite lost, and thrown out of sale,
such as brillants and pulerays,
     antherines and bombazines.

You all get the picture!

Hope this helps.

	



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