various goodbyes--another word from our sponsor
Vaska Tumir
vaska at geocities.com
Fri Sep 26 11:05:42 CDT 1997
Chris, I don't know why I get on your nerves quite this much: don't recall
ever sending anything nasty, snide, or mean-spirited about you either to the
list or to you privately. I do have the copies of those messages you
characterize as "insensitive, unresponsive, and contentious." Others don't
know their contents or what I was responding to. See what ugly things those
private bickerings can and do create on the list itself. They are quite
unnecessary -- and harmful.
I also want to thank everyone who's been a friend to me on this list, and
there are many of both sexes -- which is why I'm here to stay. Otherwise, I
could be reading Pynchon and thinking of his work in perfectly splendid
solitude -- but without half the fun and education being on this list gives
me; the enjoyment and the knowledge various shared by so many people 'round
these parts.
Vaska
>From Chris:
>Vaska, I posted that message publicly because I took a few days to
>reconsider my own situation and found that taking a breather helped.
>Neither the message nor the advice was directed specifically towards you,
>though you may benefit from both. While I could have done much to handle
>our off-list exchange better, I must say that you were as insensitive,
>unresponsive, and contentious then as you are here and now. As you
>usually are on this list. It would help things considerably if you took
>a minute to walk around in another person's shoes, as they say.
>
>I really hope I don't seem self-righteous to anyone now. My last message
>and this one are a sincere attempt to help scale down the fireworks. It
>is not part of a manipulation. My off-list messages to you were simply
>off-list messages. They were not the dread machinations of an attempt to
>repress what rightly belongs in the consciousness of the screen. That
>nasty flame about "electronic hairpulling" made me cry, for goodness
>sake, and despite a reputation for being "out there," I can also be quite
>discreet. As far as I understand list etiquette, it is inappropriate to
>engage in extended and heated personal exchanges on-list. That's all.
>This isn't therapy, though some of us may need it. I wrote to you
>off-list in a vain attempt to explain myself, to express my anger, and to
>ask for your forbearance. No plots, no games.
>
>My attempt was as pointless then as it is now, as you view me as some
>kind of nut. I won't be so unkind as to repeat publicly what I think of
>you, but I think you've made yourself clear to everyone. I'll simply
>repeat my request that you leave me alone. Having you go away entirely
>would be lovely, as it seems this is the way you intend to behave on an
>on-going basis, but it's entirely too much to hope for.
>
>Chris
>
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