Prosthetic Paradise(2) Enfetishment&MS (fwd)

jporter jp4321 at idt.net
Tue Dec 7 08:38:54 CST 1999


>Jody schrieb:
>
>
>> No one on this list is being
>> tortured by Nazis, or suffering from bomb induced radiation sickness, or
>> having their genome evaluated by a duly appointed board.
>
>  What makes you so sure?

Actually, I'm not. But my statement can be construed, if you're so
inclined, or at least generous, as a gambit to encourage those who might
be, and who are capable using email, to let us know.

>
>> How does one tell a good Archon from a bad Archon?
>
>  It's these, ahh, EYES ... A-and, of course, the genitals.
>
>  (- what you call "good Archons" are in fact: Angels)


Well then, forget about the following statements regarding Revenge. Ovens
can be used for bread, as well. Bless you. Think of it as the R-N, where
N=1>>>lazy eight.


>
>> The
>> good Archons always win. It may take a millenium or two, but we never
>> fail. If you don't believe that, then you may as well open the oven door
>> for yourself and walk in, because you will be no good to us, and we won't
>> open it for you. We will, however, act to keep bad Archons from making
>> ovens and putting victims in them. No revengence, though. That leads
>> to oven making.
>
>   Well, this passage does not seem to be "conclusive" at all.

Again, the lazy eight.

>
>
>> I am not offended by your pessimism.
>
>  Strange enough, it somehow sounds like it.

Touch me, as J. Morrison might say.

>
>> Personally, however,I don't feel particularly victimized by the trends you
>> allude to, if not exagerate the seriousness of. They are perhaps serious,
>> but using them as icons, or stringing them together into a chorus of
>> pessimism doesn't help me to understand exactly how, and why I should be
>> worried, shocked or concerned.
>
>  To become a victim you don't need to "feel particulary victimized".

Agreed.The set of all victims includes some Archons. One can also be a good
victim. Good Archons in the set of all victims means that there is
something more fundamental than either victimhood or the Archon state,
Something external.

>>It becomes like geese returning to the
>> flock- certain gestures and attitudes must be displayed, in order to be
>> accepted.
>
>  This must be a socio-biological reference I do not get.

Your pessimism- not to be taken literally or lightly. I guess I expressed
that poorly.

>
>>  At any
>> rate, a random set, if there is such a thing, is only random once. (...) It
>>just doesn't repeat itself.
>
>  "The same is different" (Ranulph Glanville)

The river has sprung a leak.

jody





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