GRGR (15): Good & Evil (was Enzian...)

Terrance F. Flaherty Lycidas at worldnet.att.net
Mon Dec 13 18:27:18 CST 1999


Yup, we are completely at cross talk. I say in the abstract,
I say in the novel. You say in the abstract, you say in the
novel. Things are reversed here. We are totally
miscommunicating. Is it evil to murder another person, like
I walk into a store an shoot a man in cold blood and walk
out, Just for a thrill. Yes, I say it is. Is it evil to
engage in S&M? To do what Katje and Pudding do? Hey, to each
his own,  No, I say it is not. But why does Katje do it?
Blicero! Is what Blicero does in GR evil? Not like my
shooting a man in cold blood, hey it's a novel.  Is Blicero
the avatar of the Nazi dream of the death Kingdom in GR? Yes
he is. Does that make him an evil character in GR. Yes. Is
fucking children evil in real life? Yes. Is pointy an evil
character in GR? Yes he is. 

jporter wrote:
> 
> Paul, yesterday:
> 
> >Gosh, I've got to demur a teensy bit here. Pederasty and messing up
> >demented old men may WELL be evil in the abstract. In the novel these
> >things constitute mere play of the imagination. I know Pudding dies (too
> >much escherichia coli (sp)) and who knows what happens to the girls, but
> >eeevil??? No way, IMHO.
> 
> I agree.
> 
> >Here's a question for you casuists out there. What is the significance of
> >Slothrop NOT having sex with the girl with the doll with the lapislazuli
> >eyes? (hope this isn't too gross)
> 
> Hmmm. Tough one. That would be kind of like culture "screwing"
> civilization, just at the dawn of civilization. I mean, in their stately
> dance sometimes they overlap, but as Slothrop discovered, neither can claim
> the lead.
> 
> Besides she's just a figure; the "tiny frost flower" of her hand, fragile,
> like cuneiform.
> 
> jody



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