GRGR(16): Dzaqyp

[Peter Petto]

At 06:44 PM 12/15/1999 -0500, Jeremy Osner wrote:

>My limited understanding of Central Asian orthographics suggests that
>"Dzaqyp" would be pronounced something like "Jahkoop", which brings to
>mind "Jacob".

Weisenberger decodes Dzaqyp as Jacob and goes on to say Qulan is the 
Kirghiz word for wild horse.

>I'm not really familiar enough with the biblical figure of
>Jacob to know if this could qualify as a reference -- anyone? Is it a
>true cognate?

Here's a nutshell (from Encarta):

>>Jacob, in the Old Testament, one of the Hebrew patriarchs, son of Isaac 
>>and Rebekah, and grandson of Abraham. After depriving his brother Esau of 
>>their father's blessing and of his birthright by trickery, Jacob fled to 
>>the house of his uncle, Laban, where he worked for many years, and 
>>married Laban's daughters, Leah and Rachel. His wives and their 
>>handmaidens, Zilpah and Bilhah, bore him 12 sons, who became the 
>>patriarchs of the 12 tribes of Israel. Leah bore Issachar, Judah, Levi, 
>>Reuben, Simeon, and Zebulun; Rachel bore Joseph and Benjamin; Zilpah bore 
>>Gad and Asher; and Bilhah bore Dan and Naphtali.
>>
>>  The story of Jacob is told in Genesis 25-35. Outstanding events in 
>> Jacob's life were the vision (of "Jacob's ladder") and blessing received 
>> at Bethel (see Genesis 28:10-22) and the bestowal of the name Israel 
>> upon him by a divine adversary after they had struggled (see Genesis 
>> 32:24-32). As the figure of Esau is taken to represent the nation of 
>> Edom (see Genesis 36:8), so the figure of Jacob, or Israel, personifies 
>> the nation of Israel. Thus the prophet Hosea saw Jacob's experiences as 
>> typifying those of his people (see Hosea 12) around 1700BC.

Sounds like it would be easier to make a case to match Jacob with 
Tchitcherine, a reach to my mind (although I've heard many make a similar 
reach to Cain and Abel.)