Somewhat NP Argentinians bound for Germany

[jbor]

Hi Hernan, and welcome 

Not really contesting any of what you write, merely the suggestion that this
is being presented in Pynchon's *GR*. The relative extent of Argentine (and
general South American) complicity in the repatriation of Nazi officials and
scientists has, however, been questioned here, characterised as a "standard
cliche", "twen(tieth) cent(ury) mythography" and the like, with reports of
"Hitler's new life in Argentina" published in the "Police Gazette" and so
forth. JBFrame also wrote:

> The ratline was usually a system of false passports that got certain persons
> on to merchant vessels.  I think very few people actually left on U-boats,
> whereas many just got out with new identities, like Eichmann & Mengele.

There are photos of Churchill with Hitler -- all buddy-buddy -- Roosevelt
too I think. "Peron's close relation with nazism" hasn't been addressed (it
was actually Eva who was referenced, btw), let alone denied -- lots of
so-called post-war "democracies" and "republics" have in fact been
proto-fascist and despotic.

best


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>From: Hernán Díaz <diazhernan at sinectis.com.ar>
>To: jbor <jbor at bigpond.com>
>Subject: Re: Somewhat NP Argentinians bound for Germany
>Date: Sat, Aug 5, 2000, 11:27 PM
>

> Not entirely true: from Priebke to Eichmann (just remember Mossad's
intervention
> in the whole thing) through Mengele and many many others, Argentina has been
> -thanks to Peron- a paradise for these perpetrators of banality of evil.
Peron,
> this is well known, was close  with Mussolini, Franco (who gave him assylum in
> Spain) and Stroessner (his host in Paraguay). The declaration of war was, of
> course, a matter of protocolar convenience and did not reflect Peron's stand
> point on the issue. Nazis here, in Argentina, preferred to seclude themselves
in
> small villages in Córdoba (one, sadly famous, is the paradisiac "La
cumbrecita",
> where not many years ago you could find a wonderful little street named
> Mussolini) and in the mountains and lakes sorrounding Bariloche, surely
because
> of the resemblance these woods have with the Black Forest. It is true, though,
> that Argentina's wealth by the mid-fourties was mainly related to the
> agricultural production (Argentina was called "El granero del mundo") and to
> Europe's ruin after the war. But to deny Perón's close relationship with
nazism
> is blindness. His corporative organisation of the state reflects the same
fascist
> misreading of Hegel you can find in European Fascism; his whole iconography
and
> the cult of his own personality are part of his  constitution as a charismatic
> leader. All the school text were on Peron and his wife. And he built lots of
> schools (named after himself, of course). Shools and highways and
sport-arenas.
> Three things Fascist always have been fascinated with. It is true, though,
that
> Perón's fascism cannot be understood in the same way as, let us say, Lugones's
> (whose apparition in GG is not casual). There was a glorification (and an
> invention) of tradition,  these spartan values were predominant in both cases
and
> the sword was always the last reason to attend to. But Lugones (and early
> proto-fascist movements such as Uriburu's in the thirties) constituted the
> oxymoron of Fascism without the people, whereas Perón came to power with the
> support of the majority of the people. And this  speaks of the enormous
> complexity of the issue. But it is impossible to say that Perón's "direct
> involvement with the Germans in WWII were
>> perpetrated by anti-peronistas in the late fifties."
>