WWII in GR

[Dave Monroe]

At least, and, certainly, at first approximation.  But my predilection is to
follow, map out, that disseminative thread, chain, web, network, wahtever, of
meanings to whatever extent possible.  Which certainly seems Pynchon's--or, at
any rate, his texts'--predilection as well.  But recall that remark of Inga
Clendinnen's (Reading the Holocaust), about how many fictions that present,
represent the Holocaust often do so allusively, by the deployment of, say,
ceratin words, metonyms, synecdoches, whatever.  All sorts of things going on
in that very interesting passage indeed, from Versailles to the Holocaust
(which, of course, are not entirely disconnected, no?), and then some, in
either (temporal, at LEAST) direction.  Phoenix to ashes, ashes to Holocaust,
heck, holocaust to Holocaust .... Am working on that utopianism angle as well,
note Pokler's utopianism in re: rocketry, space exploration, in
contradistinction to later comments of, by, or in re: Blicero about the moon,
recent discussions here (and elsewhere) of the responsibility, culpability of
the scientist in war (or otherwise), but also the mystic, apocalyptic lineage
of National Socialism, gotta run, but will be back ...

 Again, my predilection is to take into account as

jbor wrote:

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> monroe:
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> > still trying to get on to that
> > "grim phoenix" (and from what does a pheonix arise ...?) thing
>
> I'd say that the metaphoric allusion is to the Third Reich rising from the
> ashes of WWI.