Imagining the Holocaust

Paul Mackin pmackin at clark.net
Tue Aug 15 11:54:30 CDT 2000


More on "sides" it occurs to me that if as according to Hutcheon (sp?) P
writes in the historiographic metafiction mode then he doesn't even
traffic in "sides". Rather differences. Different histories. Not that
his are better or truer but at least as just as good and worthy.

			P.

On Tue, 15 Aug 2000, Paul Mackin wrote:

> I thought the name of the thread might have been the wisecrack you
> mentioned, so wanted to clarify. Sorry I got my cartoonists mixed up
> however.
> 
> If people want Pynchon to be on their side I think it's a little
> unfortunate--though understandable. For what it's worth, whenever I start
> thinking I'm on a particular side of some two-sided issue I look around
> the room and see whose agreeing with me and quickly begin
> considering seeing reasons why the OTHER side may better deserve
> support. Something like that anyway. Hate "sides." 
> 
>  				P.
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> On Tue, 15 Aug 2000, Dave Monroe wrote:
> 
> > No misunderstanding whatsoever, and it's quite possibly inevitable that
>  just about anything touching on the Holocaust in whatever way is going to be
>  problematic to
> > somebody somehwere, so ... and there is no doubt much in that Pynchonian
>  ouevre that is problematic to somebody somewhere as well, inc. maybe even me.
>   Think much recent
> > debate (such as it was) might well be the result of various commentators
>  here attempting to claim Pynchon, Gravity's Rainbow, as somehow less
>  problematic, perhaps maybe
> > even more agreeable, to their own sense of just what a "problem" might
>  be than to that of others.  As with, say, the Bible or Shakespeare or
>  whatever for some, I'm sure
> > we'd all like to feel that Pynchon is somehow "on our side."  Which is
>  why I'm curious as to what ultimately, say, jbor, might be claiming about
>  the book, in re: the
> > Holocaust.  in re: history, politics, aesthetics, whatever, in general.
>   For starters.  Me, I didn't really cruise in with a full-blown Reading
>  all ready to deploy, just
> > making notes, offering observations, is all.  Maus, by the way, is
>  Art Spegelman, if that's what you mean, but let me know if R. Crumb
>  ever did anything on the
> > Holocaust--R. Crumb on ANYTHING is bound to be "problematic," albeit
>  interesting and even enjoyable nonetheless ...
> 
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