GRGR(18): Finding Lisaura

[Lycidas at worldnet.att.net]

Lorentzen / Nicklaus wrote:
> 
> Lycidas at worldnet.att.net schrieb:
> 
> > Where is the loving sexual relationship in this novel?
> 
>   gottfried & weissmann. can't you f e e l their glowing tenderness for each
>   other?!
> 
> > The characters seek
> > to unite not with each other, but with some absolute.
> 
>   terrance, why so undialectical here?! it's not necessarily a question of
>   either/or.


We can read these chapters as Pynchon's twisting the
dialecticians into  the operationalists or the Either/Or(s).
Though I don't find any evidence for
Kierkegaard---Nietzsche's Master Race, Freud's Primal
Father,  are twisted into the so called neo-freudian
dialecticians, Brown and Jung with Hegel's master/slave
dialectic and sartre's Other. 

 Who are the dialecticians that Pynchon is alluding to here
in these chapters and is he making a mockery of their ideas?
Using them as he will with his irony, satire? Yes! Try to
figure it out. You'll not get it by pulling one out at a
time or attributing a selected statement or passage to the
author.   You once asked me to show how Hegel fits into GR.
These are the chapters, that if an argument for Pynchon's
having read Hegel are going to be made, these are the
chapters--Hegel's Master/Slave dialectic, right?  Now that's
a nice knock down dissertation for someone to write. Glory!
How about those other dialecticians?  How about Jung? He is
here and he's another dialectician. And Brown? Another. And
Sartre? Yes!  Freud is here, but he's no dialectician No,
not Freud. Nietzsche? No, Hmmm, that Pynchon, such a clown!
What's he up to? Doubles and dialecticians? It's like some
mad symposium through the looking glass, but maybe Rilke
will put led in our pencils?


Terrance--with Five Leaves Left and Three Hours from
Sundown...in search of a master in search of a slave...