scripture & tradition/RCC

[damon Pythias]

 I can;t, dare I say it, give you
> chapter and verse. 


Mr. Morris's strange claim is very strange indeed: 

"The Apostles...delivered the Gospel...in the
                Scriptures"--Irenaeus 
                "Holy Scripture fixes the rule for our
doctrine."
                --Augustine 
                "Let us come to...the testimony of the
Holy Scriptures"
                --Augustine 
                "Let us seek the church in the books
of the Lord."
                --Augustine 
                "Let us search for the church in the
sacred Scriptures"
                --Augustine 
                "I am disposed to avoid every assembly
of bishops."
                --Gregory N. 
                "Hearers should test what teachers say
by Scripture" --
                Basil 
                "Let God-inspired Scripture decide
between us." --Basil,
                A.D. 374 
                "These canonical books are the
fountains of salvation."
                --Athanas. 
                Scriptures are sufficient
for...preaching...the Truth.
                --Athanasius 
                "We have spoken...our theology from
the Scriptures."
                --Athanasius 
                "The Scriptures were spoken and
written by God."
                --Athanasius 
                "We can learn the exact details of
faith from Scripture.
                -Athanas. 
                "The tokens of truth are more exact as
drawn from
                Scripture." 
                "The Scriptures are enough for
instruction." --Antony 
                "Scripture is of all things most
sufficient for us."
                --Athanasius 
                "Divine Scripture is sufficient above
all things."
                --Athanasius 
                "Address all these questions to the
Scriptures." --
                Chrysostom
Augustine writes: 

                    "If anyone, in matters relating to
Christ, or His
                    Church, or any other thing which
belongs to
                    faith...besides what we have
received in the
                    Scriptures...let him be accursed" 
                    C. Lit Petilian iii 7

                Jerome writes: 

                    "ignorance of the Scriptures is
ignorance if
                    Christ" 
                    In Is., prologue

                Vincent of Lerins writes: 

                    "the Canon of the Scriptures is
perfect, and
                    sufficient.." 
                    Commonitories

                Middle Ages

                Anselm, Aquinas, Bonaventure et.al say
the same:

                Aquinas writes: 

                    "The reason for this is that only
the canonical
                    Scriptures are normative for
faith..." 
                    Comm on John 21

                Bonaventure writes that all Christian
doctrine is to be
                taken: 

                    "ex fundamento sacrae Scripturae" 
                    Opusc 13


These are a few from one side of this debate, I can
provide the tradition side if  needed. Timothy is the
text usually debated here. 

anyways, TRP has religion twisted into the major
cycles of confrontation and assimilation of religion
and poetry and philosophy. in this section we get
vietnam--alluded to I think for many reasons, not the
least of which is its assimilation and confrontation
of  4 major religions and some minor ones.  Mr. paul
mackin mentions the Koran. Though the Koran is a
revelatory texts of christianith and judaism,  it has
a radical difference, difficult for westerners to
understand, perhaps Mr. mackin will explain, but it is
useful I think if it only complicates by providing an
anlogy. 

Damon




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