GRGR 31 Shit'n'Shinola (is Re: Eminem (was: Influenced by GR?)

[Dave Monroe]

... aw, hell, you know, I was going to risk Sartre here (and maybe Kojeve), but, as I
recall, Fanon took some issue with Sartre on the issue (which is where I think FF
starts in on the subject), and I figured somebody or another was going to nail me for
bringing him up light of that.   And I was particularly concerned to get to the issue
of race, as something clicked in re: C.L.R. James.  Besides, not only can I not recall
J-PS coming up in re: Pynchon (though that's hardly to say I'm much familiar with the
prodigious output of the Pynchonian exegesis industry), I couldn't say off the top of
my head just where Sartre discusses the matter, either (Being and Nothingness, is
uppose, would have been a good guess, if only by virtue of volume, but ... but I can
hardly claim to have read the whole damn thing, so ...).  But I'm not one to explicate,
merely to annotate--I can maybe lead the horse to water, but I can't necessarily
demonstrate the importance and/or interest of drinking to him/her/it.  Am not Prince
Hamlet, nor was meant to be--swelling progresses, starting scenes (esp. in public), an
easy tool (cf. swelling, scenes), whatever ... but, certainly, glad to be of use.
Whereas you, sir, excel in such matters, so, if you're up to it ...

So if you're up to it ...

Terrance wrote:

> Dave Monroe wrote:
> >
> > ... very quick note, though, here, on that "long daisy chain of victims and
> > victmizers,"  cf. Samuel Beckett, How it Is, which has its own peculiar--and very
> > resonant, here--take on G.W.F. Hegel's master/slave dialectic (in The
> > Phenomenology of Mind).  Karl Marx, Friedrich Nietzsche (Beyond Good and Evil),
> > Franz Fanon (Black Skin, White Masks) ... however, what might of particular
> > relevance here is the African-American Marxist C.L.R. James on "The Negro
> > Problem" (currently available in the C.L.R. James Reader, ed. Anna Grimshaw) ...
>
> Thanks, I don't provide notes anymore or good posts, Sartre
> is Pynchon's most important source on this,
>
> Seeeeyaasss