society & streamings (was: Theatre/Theater)

Paul Mackin pmackin at clark.net
Fri Mar 3 11:52:09 CST 2000


Also against post or neo Freudians (besides Adorno as Kai cites)
was that famous Icon of the 60s Students--Herbert Marcuse.
In _Eros and Civilization_ the last chapter is "Epilogue: Neo-Freudian
Rivisionism." But here's my question: Can the German pre-war culture
critique is GR--which certainly has it's hilarious aspects (hillside
masturbation, mutti this mutti that)--be read as a sendup of social
psychology of the neo-Freudian type?--or is the answer too obviously Yes? 

The Pyncher in Art seems clearly on the side of the Pleasure Principle.

			P.
		
 On Fri, 3 Mar 2000, Lorentzen / Nicklaus wrote:

> 
> Paul Mackin schrieb:
> 
> > I was only alluding to how Freud in his final writings warned
> > against difficulties inherent in trying to analyze society or a particular
> > culture such as the German pre-war culture--which P addresses himself
> > to--as far as rooting out societal neuroses or pathologies is concerned.
> > For Freud aggression was instinctual and individual. F didn't say
> > positively don't draw analogies between societal and individual
> > development--just said it would be difficult and that they
> > would be mere analogies.  Post Freudians sometimes felt otherwise.
> 
>   against the so called post freudians like horney or fromm it was adorno (- 
>   see: "zum verhältnis von soziologie und psychologie") who kept up freud's 
>   implicitly radical view (- adorno: "what's true about psychoanalysis are the 
>   exaggerations"). according to teddy's hegelian methodological approach there  
>   is a  "in-sich-vermittelter widerspruch" (- about: "internally mediated 
>   contradiction") between society and the human being. this contradiction is not 
>   balanced, since society became - with the rise of functional differentiation - 
>   more and more repressive in an autopoietic way. with the "exagerrations" of 
>   psychoanalysis adorno means the revolutionary romanticism of the early   
>   libido conception (- this most important part of the theory was later   
>   eleborated by reich), which he conceived to be a "non-identical" resistance 
>   potential, which can still be experienced by the alienated individual through 
>   the help of authentic art & wild sex (- also through a certain way of   
>   "remembering" thinking). this means for the research to do the sociological   
>   part as sociological as possible (> the late marx) and the psychological part 
>   as psychological as possible (> the early freud). against all that mediocre 
>   "social psychology" i definitely prefer this negative dialectics of adorno. 
>   today we can substitute marx by niklas luhmann. & we can substitute freud by 
>   wilhelm reich ...
>                               just follow your streamings! kfl
> 
>   ps: freud was also quite fond of shakespeare and of goethe. in "das 
>   unheimliche" (- "the uncanny") he writes quite adequately about e.t.a.   
>   hoffmann.      
> 




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