GRGR(20) 1904 revisited

[HenryMu]

Once Upon a Time in the West is a must see; Henry is one of the baddies
ever. Fonda's last Western was "My Name is Nobody" in 1973. Others include:

Drums Along the Mohawk and Jesse James(!), 1939
The Grapes of Wrath (takes place in the West!) and The Return of Frank
James(!), 1940
Oxbow Incident, '43
My Darling Clementine, '46
Fort Apache, '48
The Tin Star, '57
A-& that Warlock in '59

Keep cool, but care.

AsB4,

Henry

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Mackin" <pmackin at clark.net>
To: <pynchon-l at waste.org>
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2000 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: GRGR(20) 1904 revisited


> Henry made Westerns both before and after WWII but no one would ever have
> typed him as a cowboy or Western actor unless possibly they were of a
> mind to think of anyone working in California or even any American actor
> as some kind of cowboy. Who knows what Achtfaden's problem was. He
> certainly wouldn't be expected to be an adept in the American idiom.
> I wasn't implying anyone had made a "mistake." Just pointing out an
> obvious (well maybe not so obvious) clue as to the general weirdness in
> the air. Anyway, at the time of WWII Fonda was mainly known for New York
> stage roles as in "The Farmer Takes A Wife," Hollywood romantic comedies
> such as "The Lady Eve," firm dramas such as "Jezibel" with Bette Davis,
> and historic dramas such as Alexander Graham Bell's assistant, Abe
> Lincoln, Frank James. By a stretch you might call the two
> James Brothers movies Westerns but it would be a terrible stretch. You'd
> then have to call Tyrone Power a cowboy actor as well. Actually Ty (Jesse
> James) was only in the first of the two having been shot dead by John
> Carradine in the first. Do I remember rightly that Carradine had been a
> Shakespearean actor. He of course played in a lot of Westerns including
> Stage Coach I think with John Wayne who truly could be called a cowboy
> actor. As could Hopalong Cassidy and Gabby Hayes.
>
> Sorry, I got carried away.
>
>
> P.
>
> On Mon, 6 Mar 2000, Mark Wright AIA wrote:
>
> > Howdee!
> > I'm sure Henry made his share of westerns... Check out his black-hat
> > bad-guy in the great "Once Upon A Time In The West" (Sergio Leone).
> > Only rent it in WIDE screen format, though.  Entire sequences make no
> > sense whatsoever without the whole image.
> >
> > I'd lie and call the film "Pynchonian" if I thought it would get anyone
> > to see the thing.  But Rocketman is above all that shit...
> >
> > Yippy Yi Yo Tie Yaaaay
> > Mark
> >
> > --- Paul Mackin <pmackin at clark.net> wrote:
> > (...)we are in the mind of a pretty bombed out narrator (or
> > > narrators) when, for example, we hear Henry Fonda referred to as an
> > > American cowboy actor, which no one with even a particle of knowledge
> > > of
> > > American movies would ever have done.
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