Indecision 2000

[jbor]

Yes, I was commenting more on the transparent use of email and 
discussion-lists for spreading propaganda, and don't know enough about the
policies or backgrounds to know which candidate is "better" in terms of the
domestic situation. I don't think either of them, like many Americans, know
where the rest of the world is anyway. It amused me to think, narrow as the
margin appears it will be, that it could be attributed to votes lost by
virtue of the transparent lobbying of a notorious discussion-list pest. The
beauty of the internet over other media is that journalistic bias and
pretence seem so much more obvious here, due to the interactive nature of
the medium.

By the way, is it true that if the presidential vote count is close in New
Mexico or somewhere then the issue is decided by a contest like a game of
two-handed stud poker or something? Comedians and newscasters over here have
been having a field day. It seems that what has been pointed up are the
flaws in the system rather than the relative virtues of the candidates.

I think the only U.S. political figure who has emerged with any credibility
in the last 8 years, from this vantage anyway, is good ol' Hillary. Perhaps
you guys should just abandon the whole process, hire Clay Blaisdell to shoot
the two incumbents or something, and make *her* monarch.

best

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>From: calbert at tiac.net
>To: "jbor" <jbor at bigpond.com>
>Subject: Re: ooooops, I did it again
>Date: Thu, Nov 16, 2000, 8:23 AM
>

>
>> Nonetheless, seeing as being involved with "Nazi German banking
>> operations" isn't a genetic hand-me-down, as far as I'm aware, then I
>> can't see the relevance of the "dirt" being dug in terms of the
>> context which it is being dug for.
>
> Fair enough....except it appears that whatever character flaw drove
> Prescott to deal with "the enemy" has been passed on......George
> Sr.'s sins don't begin or end with his CIA efforts, but continue
> through Iran/Contra/Crack (the CIA has now fessed up to "not
> paying enough attention" - we'll wait another decade for its
> confession that it was more than a case of indifference); its
> contribution to the S&L mess of the 80's......Poppy's brother also
> has the bug, having engaged in various business ventures with the
> Yakuza....
>
> I don't care at all about Snort's OUI matter..... I care a lot more
> about the abuse of process that characterized his land grab in the
> Texas Stadium matter, as well as the fact that those who bailed him
> out of his oil field failures (and they were pretty much uninterrupted
> from the start) would often find plum appointments in his father's
> administration.....
>
> Jeb took $75,000 to facilitate a $200 mill dollar fraud, he also
> benefitted from some curious dealings regarding a defaulted loan
> (the default was forgiven, the building turned over to him and his
> partner for 10% of the original value, and the tax payer picked up
> the $4 mill dollar balance)......Neil, in spite of flagrant abuse of his
> fiduciary duties, walked away from a fiasco at Silverado, caused in
> large part by his generosity to his cronies.......
>
> the criminal behavior, if not congenital, can at least be categorized
> as systemic.....
>
>
>> Seems to me that if approximately
>> half of the voters in the U.S. popped their chads for the man, then
>> accusations about "stealing the presidency" and being a "creepy
>> halfwit with a criminal record" (a drink driving charge, I believe),
>> and the associated fear-mongering which partisan Gore-ites seem to be
>> carrying on with, on-line here at least, is just political lobbying of
>> the lowest kind -- mud-slinging pure and simple attempting to cloak
>> itself as reputable "history" or "journalism".
>
> hey, it is politics after all. But I would caution you not to dismiss the
> smoke......and I must confess to not having paid much attention to
> the list goings on, so I can't address the intentions of other posters.
> In my efforts to shine light on the criminal conspiracy known as the
> Bush clan, I always provide documentation, and take care to
> eliminate from consideration anything which I cannot corroborate
> with another source.....
>
>
> But, as I said before,
>> I think they're both bozos.
>
> And I wouldn't argue.... I favored McCain, myself.....It is just that the
> Bush family has taken the Kennedy ethos and "turned it up to 11"....
>
> take care,
>
> love,
> cfa
>