Liberation? (was Re: Cutting ... )
Terrance Flaherty
lycidas2 at earthlink.net
Tue Sep 5 07:06:10 CDT 2000
Thank you for butting in. Yes, all plausible explanation. A
regular motif (we can trace it back to the Short Stories),
loneliness, feelings of being close to death and most
Alive. These are all quite plausible and make good sense to
me, but I think there is something else as well. What I
propose does not conflict with your three here. These three
might also support jbor's suggestion that Weissmann's open
homosexuality is one of the reasons that "At the top of the
complex is Schutzhaftlingsfuher Blicero." [GR.666] However,
I think there is another explanation provided by the text:
Who else COULD (my capitalization) the 175's have chosen for
their oppressor? His power is ABSOLUTE (my capitalization)
[GR.666]. Remember that Their greatest and most insidious
artifice is the lulling of people into a false sense of
freedom. The 175s do indeed feel close to death, in fact,
they Worship it. The phantom SS command here is based not so
much on the one prisoners knew at Dora as on what they
inferred to be the Rocket-structure next door. This
page--666--is worth reading real close.
True, he is called their "brother elite" and this goes, I
think to jbor's point, but it is Death that they worship,
these guys are a counter culture, a collective of brothers,
but they have been sickened, kinda like those Africans and
many others in the Zone.
I'll write more on this later, but I gotta go now. Thanks
for butting in.
J L wrote:
>
> butting in, here --
>
> terrance asked :
> >Why do the Dora homosexuals experience their freedom as
> >banishment rather than liberation?
>
> Maybe 'it's when closest to Death that one feels most Alive'; also for these
> folks internment may have been the first time that Loneliness was not a
> problem.
>
> The cosiness of the collective (para)military group, and
> the effect of expulsion/withdrawal on the individual, is
> a regular motif in Pynchon; and I'd include the Camp Experience in this.
>
> Some characters seem to find Enlightenment when alone. Others struggle with
> life on the Outside and try to rediscover or recreate the comforts in a new
> gang.
> That Counterforce is so sad.
>
> JL
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