Liberation?

Dave Monroe monroe at mpm.edu
Tue Sep 5 16:20:48 CDT 2000


Out of time to even attempt to pursue this today (thinking out loud again here),
but, thinking here of how homosexuality in Garvity's Rainbow often seems
associated with domination and submission, with questions of power, with, say,
that master/slave dialectic (Hegel to Marx to Nietzsche to Sartre to Fanon to
Marcuse to ...), and then Nietzsche's take on that dialectic, his sort of
"deconstruction," perhaps, of it (cf. that "deconstruction" of cause and effect,
of, say, pain, of his, which I recall being cited somewhere in re: that hysteron
proteron thang in GR, hearing the rockets after they've hit and so forth), jus'
wonderin' if maybe, given the recent, in terms of the publication of GR, in terms
of popular American usage, use of the word "gay" to connote "homosexual" (Walter
Kauffmann, for example, dates that back to Australian English ca. 1925, noting it
only became widespread in American usage in the 60s; would certainly have been
popularized with the Stonewall Riots, 1969), if, perhaps, Gravity's Rainbow was
playing on that Nietzschean "gay science" thang ... a starnge ploy, to be sure,
but, well, with that Pynchonian oeuvre, who knows?  Will see how I can play that
one out, but do also see Herbert Marcuse, Eros and Civilization as well, posted
some citations I though might be relevant from both Nietzsche's and Marcuse's
works a while back ...

JBFRAME at aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 09/05/2000 8:22:14 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> monroe at mpm.edu writes:
>
> << Can't help but think how phrases like "the gay nineties" or "Gay Paree" or
> "The
>  Gay Science" would suddenly take on new, unintended, certainly, but
> inevitable,
>  nonetheless, connotations ...
>   >>
> By now, after the Lamentably heterosexual 1990's, the term "gay" has, indeed,
> been thoroughly Deconstructed, n'est pas?
>
> jbf




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