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[Lorentzen / Nicklaus]

Jeremy schrieb:

                                                         quoting david:

> > I'd rather say it was disappointing, especially toward the end.  But for me
> > personally, it was a success.  I immersed my head in GR for over a year and
> > know it better than I ever have before.
> >
> > Thanks to all who participated.

                                           & then: 

> I agree with David's assessment (I had a similar experience with this group
> read) and echo his thanks. I don't know -- doubt -- if I will participate in
>  the
> VV as fully as I did in the GRGR, but I would be happy to see it going on.

 ok, let's confess: me too was disappointed most of the time, but there also 
 were two or three great moments, & i now know this rainbow better than any  
 other novel (- except maybe for rdb's "keiner weiß mehr" which is much  
 shorter). however, we sureley missed some bigger opportunities ... it's just  
 like always: - few  people do a lot (- & through this: tend to lose themselves 
 in their very own life-dramas), most people do nothing, only lookie-lookie & "i 
 wish xy would still be there, like in that last century when we had all 
 those oh so meaningful discussions" ... i agree to blame it to "human nature"  
 (- whatever that might be ...). if you people really read v together i'll keep 
 on to the text, & throw my shabby groschen now & then. not as often as during 
 the grgr [- yes, yes, i post too much, but that's only because you post too 
 little ...], since there are things to be done: sometimes, believe it or not,  
 even european social scientists have to work hard. if there won't be any group 
 read, i personally will start to rereread m&d. interests me more than v. but 
 don't believe spirits or opportunities will be better in spring ... they won't.

 see you: kai //:: ps: if these non-p group read suggestions (jr, been down so 
 long ...) won't stop, i will start to suggest vollmann's "the royal family" 
 every saturday from now on. what a wonderful book! here comes an entertaining  
 passage which might or might not make you laugh: 

 "where's mugsy? she said.
  mugsy's taking a little nap, said her mother-in-law, with the usual smile of  
  instant inanity that came whenever that creature was mentioned. suddenly,    
  awaking from her loving trance, she said: irene, is it true koreans eat dogs?
  yes, mom, in korea. but i never have. my father's side of the family really   
  likes them, though. you want to hear a funny story, mom? when we first moved 
  to this country, my second uncle and auntie went to the supermarket, and they 
  couldn't read english very well, so when they got to the aisle where the pet 
  stuff is and they saw all those bags of dog food, you know, with the different 
  pictures of dogs on the different brands, they thought it was different kind 
  of dog meat, and they said: wow, what a great country america is; it has 
  everything!
  oh, my god, said mrs. tyler.
  i'm sorry, mom. did i say anything wrong? i was just trying to---" (p. 51)