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David Morris fqmorris at hotmail.com
Sat Aug 11 17:06:37 CDT 2001


I thank you for this post, kai.

I'm trying to refrain from Doug-drubbing, really.  Although I've prophesied 
Doug's inheritance of this list, I've learned to care less.  Moving on is 
transcendance.

But as your own post here testifies, this is a forum, voices speak and 
advocate.  Yes, the Doug-game is easy, and unworthy, but once in a while 
drubbing is unavoidable, the only choice.

My delete key is my route to transcendance.  Doug-drubbing is only junk 
food.

David Morris

>From: lorentzen-nicklaus at t-online.de
>
>  no, thomas, i ain't ill (except for that fallsucht/'epilepsie' i've 
>chosen myself for this lifetime), i'm just, like jane put it recently, 
>"tired of gaming". and i definitely believe that people like malignd or 
>david morris can do better things for this list than dissing doug or his 
>mother. not that doug, back in the days, did not deserve it or that it 
>wasn't fun. not at all. but how long shall we play this game? another 5 
>years? or 10 or 15?! you know, recently i read sloterdijk defining "hell" 
>as the unability to expand ... so we're in hell ... "this is hell, this is 
>hell, i'm sorry to tell", as elvis costello once sang ... same same, old 
>old, over and over again ... and again ... and - hey! - again ... guess we 
>should ask for some karmic adjustment ... as the (neo)reichian, i also am, 
>i do not think much of apologies. yet what i believe in is the possibility 
>of - change ... nah, i ain't naive, working at a department for technology 
>assessment, i know very well, you can bet your sweet ass on this, what 
>social inertia actually is and how it is functioning ... in its best 
>moments, however, t h i s  list can  t r a n s c e n d  that conventional 
>narrowness which is so dominating in our late-late-late-society ... yes, we 
>all are hurt. yes, there are always again misunderstandings because of 
>clashing cultural patterns. yes, most tender creations get killed here by 
>ignorance and paranoia. just like everywhere. but then we ain't only 
>thanatoids but also - f r e e ~~~ "love is god/god is love/boys & girls 
>love god above!" (prince, 1988) ~~~ jan, by the way, he's walking now, and 
>yella she wants, when grown-up, do 3 jobs: diver, robotist, & soccer player 
>~~~ now there's some wind in the trees before my window ~~~ yours in love: 
>kai ~~~ ~~~ ~~~

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