Boycott was Re: Karma my ass!
barbara100 at jps.net
barbara100 at jps.net
Sat Dec 1 23:15:10 CST 2001
I like your spirit, Simon. I take issue with your method--and of course
your cause, being that it concerns me--but I think it admirable just the
same--trying to band your fellows together in a common cause, in passive
resistance. I really respect that.
Good Luck :-)
---- Original Message -----
From: Simon Bryquer <sbryquer at worldnet.att.net>
To: <pynchon-l at waste.org>
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 6:36 PM
Subject: Boycott was Re: Karma my ass!
> What I really don't understand is why anyone even bothers to reply to
> Mr.Millison & Barbara. Control yourselves and don't react, just simply
> ignore them and get back to P-list and Pynchon. Simply a complete
moratorium
> of Millison and Barbara not matter what they post.
>
> Ignoring them does amount to dismissing them. Let's see what happens when
no
> one pays any attention to them and stops feeding their pathological
craving
> for attention.
>
> SCB
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Phil Wise" <philwise at paradise.net.nz>
> To: "Paul Mackin" <paul.mackin at verizon.net>; <pynchon-l at waste.org>
> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 8:37 PM
> Subject: Re: Karma my ass!
>
>
> Same kiddie impulse that leads grownups (some many times over) into
periodic
> rounds of baiting and name calling, perhaps?
>
> phil
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Mackin" <paul.mackin at verizon.net>
> To: <pynchon-l at waste.org>
> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 1:13 PM
> Subject: Re: Karma my ass!
>
>
> > My question is how can grownups (which all p-listers are and some many
> times
> > over) can treat this Dougian karma doodoo with such seriousness.
> >
> > P.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <KXX4493553 at aol.com>
> > To: <quail at libyrinth.com>; <pynchon-l at waste.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 3:21 PM
> > Subject: Re: Karma my ass!
> >
> >
> > > In einer eMail vom 01.12.01 19:58:40 (MEZ) Mitteleuropäische Zeit
> schreibt
> > > quail at libyrinth.com:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >America must have an enormous karmic debt to pay. Let's just pay
it
> > and
> > > > >learn our lessons.
> > > >
> > > > >I'm not the pervert who linked "karmic" and "debt" together.
> > > > >Actually, I stole it from Gary Zukav. I think they go together
well.
> > > > >And I stand behind my statement. Sorry if you find it
insensitive,
> > > > >but I believe America does have a karmic debt to pay.
> > > >
> > > > I was actually hoping you would just sort of quietly disown that
> > > > statement, which I find the single most offensive thing stated on
the
> > > > P-List since September 11. The very fact that you would use a
> > > > religious/philosophical concept pulled from Buddhism to *justify*
the
> > > > death of thousands of multinational non-combatants is appalling to
me
> > > > in the extreme. And lets not mince words -- you *are* justifying
it.
> > >
> > > I agree with "Quail" in this point. I can remember that some years ago
a
> > > German "buddhist" was speculating in tv that the Holocaust was the
> result
> > of
> > > the "karmic debt of the Jews". This is complete bullshit, and I as a
> > > "leftist" in your eyes (I see big differences in the attitude towards
> > > "leftism" in the American and in the European public) would never
accept
> > such
> > > a thinking in "left" groups here.
> > > BTW, the "peace movement" here isn't much a left thing. It's much more
> > > ideologically diffuse and influenced by several political directions.
> > >
> > > But: mistrust your government whereever you hear their political
> > statements!
> > > The same with the official media. Just read an interview with a former
> > > secretary of state during the Helmut Schmidt government here, in the
> > > seventies and the early eighties, a social democrat. He mistrusts the
> > > official versions of 9/11 until today. Too many open questions are
still
> > > unanswered. But the main question is: do we need "super powers" any
> > longer?
> > > It doesn't matter for me if this "super power" is called USA, Russia,
> > China
> > > or whatever. And I must laugh about my government: in a newspaper
(taz)
> > which
> > > has a lot of sympathies with the German Green Party I had to read
today
> > that
> > > it would be good if German peace-keeping troops were sent to
Afghanistan
> > > because the Afghans traditionally have "good relations" to the Germans
> and
> > > the Germans would have no interests in Central Asia! Harhar! A good
> joke!
> > > This newspaper - the taz - was formerly - let's say fifteen years
ago -
> > the
> > > most well-known left-radical newspaper in Germany. Formerly they made
> > > campaigns like "weapons for El Salvador" to support the Guerilla
there,
> > and
> > > now they want to make Joschka Fischer to an "elder statesman" and
peace
> > > angle.
> > > This world is only a bitter and a bad joke.
> > >
> > > Kurt-Werner Pörtner
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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