Karma my ass! Quail, Davemarc, Kurt, and Doug

[David Morris]

And I think we should recognized that we are using pop-concept "karma."  
"Real" Zen concepts are slippery things to discuss.

>From: "Paul Mackin" <paul.mackin at verizon.net>
>I now think it is necessary to denounce the karma doodoo  with seriousness. 
>Apologies to real buddhists and hindus

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