IBM, Disney, Bush: Nazis?

[Dave Monroe]

Very quickly, elaboration to follow, if, but, more
likley, when, I get a chance.  Pre-war, at least,
Disney was an admirer of sorts of Hitler's.  As were,
as I recall, Henry Ford, Charles Lindbergh, Joseph
Kennedy, to name some prominent names.  Sure,
everybody was against the Nazis, the Japanese, the
Fascist Italians, whoever, once the war was underway,
but ... but do note how lines of mere nationality are
crossed, esp. by corporations, not only in Gravity's
Rainbow, but how they were, are, and will no doubt
continue even moreso to be in this here "real" world
as well.  And do note that racial (among other types
of) prejudice was in no small part perpetrated by all
nominal "sides" in WWII (and in pretty much any other
war you care, or even don't care, to name).  And
thatnks for the reference, Terrance.  See also ...

Cohen, Karl F.  Forbidden Animation: Censored
   Cartoons and Blacklisted Animators in America.
   Jefferson, N.C.: McFarland, 1998.

Dower, John W.  War Without Mercy: Race and Power
   in the Pacific War.  New York: Pantheon, 1986.

And the argument can be made that amny of yr popular
cartoon stars--Mickey, Daffy, Bugs--are essentially
blackface characters, see ...

Crafton, Donald.  Before Mickey: The Animated
   Film, 1898-1928.  Cambridge, MA: MIT Press,
   1982.  Rept.  Chicago: U of Chicago P, 1993.
   
Not mounting an argument here, not yet, at any rate,
just pointing out a few things, is all ...


--- Terrance <lycidas2 at earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> Eric Rosenbloom wrote:
> > 
> > jbor:
> > > And Zwolfkinder doesn't connect Disney with
> > > the Nazis in any way whatsoever as far as I can
> see.
> > 
> > Come now, Zwolfkinder is pretty obviously inspired
> by Disneyland.
> 
> I don't understand this argument. 
> 
> What is P's target? 
> 
> Is it Walt Disney? 
> 
> P could target Walt for including racial stereotypes
> in his
> films. 
> 
> As in Dumbo. He's been targeting this sort of thing
> since 
> "The Secret Integration," Grover's Swift books and
> so on. 
> 
> Hitler admired Walt's films. Everyone did. 
> 
> But Hitler had his propaganda men copy the films to
> help
> attack his
> enemies. 
> 
> Walt made anti-Nazi cartoons. 
> 
> And Disney films were banned by Hitler,  this
> despite the
> fact that
> Disney was very, very popular all over Europe.
> 
> 
> Reversal of Roles: Subversion and Reaffirmation of
> Racial Stereotypes in Dumbo and The Jungle Book
> 
> By Alex Wainer
> 
> http://www.regent.edu/acad/schcom/rojc/wainer.html


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