1945

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>From: Terrance <lycidas2 at earthlink.net>
>

>  so JFK is murdered
> and the 60s, even the early 70s are folded into 1945. see
> page 81 0f GR for but one example.

The three dates mentioned on p 81 are 1945, 1943 and 1935. I'm not sure what
your example is here.

> For the culture of Death, the German Culture of Death that
> includes the Holocaust with a capital H (German's burning
> Jews in Ovens) also see 162 of GR,

Leni Pokler's viewpoint, a dig at Franz's naivety more than anything

> and 238,

cribbed from 'Paranoid Systems of History', a "short lived-periodical of the
1920s" and one of the "scarlet histories"

> 391,

???

> 403,

the reasons why Mondaugen went to work for the rocket program

> 426 (where the gnostics and Germans are equated)

??? (Pokler's "poor harassed German soul"???)

>  448,

the "German mania for subdividing" again??? How does the Toiletship refer to
the Holocaust?

> 465,

Thanatz's voice and vision

> 491,

"the bodies of Jews and Leftists hung on the hooks of the city
slaughterhouses" in Stettin: a direct reference, one in a list of things
which the "white ship" Anubis passes by "in silence"; something which is
"invisible", something which is *not* being registered by anyone (in the
text, that is)

> and 224 of V. (that's 1922),

???

> GR 546,

the story of Katje's brother and references to Degrelle's puppet govt in
Belgium???

> 749-760

???!

> and the Holocaust with a capital  H, is also Colonial Powers
> in Africa and in America and in China and so on

No it isn't. The Holocaust was what it was, and these others were what they
were, as Ken McVay responded recently:

>>I do baulk at the extension of the term to include the genocidal campaigns
>>of the pre WW I Prussian colonialists in Africa, or the Russian pogroms, for
>>example. I feel that stretching the term too far serves to diminish the
>>specific horror and tragedy of the Shoah, and the specific tragedies and
>>horrors which those other peoples experienced.
>
> I tend to agree. It was what it was, and it was quite horrid enough
> without embellishments.
                             (Ken McVay 4.10.200)

best


~~~
    "By 1945, the factory system - which, more than
     any piece of machinery, was the real and major
     result of the Industrial Revolution - had been
     extended to include the Manhattan Project, the
     German long-range rocket program and the death
     camps, such as Auschwitz.It has taken no major
     gift of prophecy to see how these three curves
      of development might plausibly converge, and
                before too long. ... "
                                 (T. Pynchon, 1984)
                                                    ~~~