VV(7) - Persona
David Morris
fqmorris at hotmail.com
Thu Jan 11 13:47:11 CST 2001
>From: Richard Fiero
>
>David Morris wrote:
>>http://www.cgjungpage.org/jplexicon.html
>>Originally the word persona meant a mask worn by actors to
>>indicate the role they played.
>
>In addition to the Gnostic Jung / Answer to Job, there is Eric
>Berne's practical therapeutic system of Transactional Analysis.
>On Berne's planet we have just three parts of personality which
>are "Child", "Adult" and "Parent. In his 1964 book "Games
>People Play" he describes the game of Schlemiel.
Very nice addition, Richard,
In Berne's model the Schlemiel is a persona of power, not victimization, and
today might be called "passive-aggressive." The victim would be the
Schlimazel, the one the Schlemiel accidentally dumps on. "Opps! I'm sorry!"
In Benny's case he is mostly a victim of himself, his own impotence. His
"victims" might be the women he interacts with, only in that he is unable to
commit to a responsible relationship. But he never is depicted as ever
really starting one up, and thus never really dumps anyone.
In Jung's model the Schlemiel is an underdeveloped persona, not
passive-aggressive, but more at a loss with the terms of the world.
"Growing up" would be to develop a world-coping persona and learning how to
get past saying "I'm sorry" all the time. I guess that would call for an
"Adult" to call Benny to task for his helplessness.
If we were to adopt some of Berne's model, the most "Parenting" character in
the book would be Rachel. And an earlier "Parent" for Benny would have been
the Navy.
Thanks,
David Morris
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