is sloth lost? (was: "underlying causative process")

[Terrance]

Eric Rosenbloom wrote:
> 
> Which brings back that ambivalence re: action. Like Jesus is willing to
> take in all our sins but needs Judas to make the project into something.

Why is Judas needed? 

Betrayer? 

Is the fiction of jesus a ceremony of riddance? 

kippurim?


kuppuru involved a human sacrifice?

Sacapegoating?


Why Jesus/Judas? Is it because he's ugly? Weak? Strong? 

What value does he have, isn't he just another preacher man,
another prophet, another can of film,  that the culture
wants to, 
in Jung's terms keep in the shadow. 

Also, Not sure this is what P has in mind either. I guess we
could go back to GR, William and the pigs and that heresy so
often quoted as
evidence of P's sympathy for Judas & Co., but that
Slothropian Heresy also includes Newton.
Science and Theology. That's one of P's best formulas, love
that Si--N GR.580.  

If jesus is a fictional redemption that permits the cult to
worship the sacrificial lamb and scape the betraying goat
how
did that fiction have such lasting power and efficacy,
perverse or otherwise? 



If jesus is just the lamb and judas the goat, the thing to
be gotten rid of (sin, death, guilt, etc.,) could have been 
transferred to a rat or to an inanimate object, like a
plate, I suppose, and washing it, or washing one's hands as
Pilot does or Mad
Lady MacBeth,  would free the mind, the soul, the  cult of
what it
transferred to the object. 

How are these different than what a R Catholic priest does
before he
consumes the body and blood of his god. Dave? It's not
simply
purgation and purification, scape goat and sacrifice,  is
it? 

What is Buck Mulligan up to in that tower? Is it the same
thing P pulls off with Slothrop and Pig? I hope Kai will
give us more on this too. I think that there be Mad
connections to through that Bloom formula to these two
novels, I mean V. and Ulysses, parents and children, fathers
and sons. 

Now can some kind soul with that new V. Companion tell me
just one little thing? Green eyes will nail my dog house
door if I buy that book now after we been eating nothing but
catsguts on rye with chicken only 2 bucks a pound. 


What does it say about the Feast of San's Ercole dei
Rinoceronti? Not much I bet, but I would like to know. Saint
Hercules fits, but I'm not quite sure about that behemoth.
Thank god for the BFL (that's big friendly library).  

Once this magic works the thing can be got rid of, but the
lamb of god does more than take away the sin of the world.  

Now, maybe s~z will help out here, as I want to get back to
those maps and charts before the new semester begins and I'm
back to hanging paper with only one arm and one eye, but
this is a very interesting topic Eric, not so much
disagreeing here as just jingling my pennies in my pocket
cause I need to hold onto my two cents.