Pinch and Swallow: Musickal Musings

Phil Wise philwise at paradise.net.nz
Thu Jul 5 22:42:21 CDT 2001


Hating to seem defensive as one of the central participants in this convo,
but popular culture, rock & roll, black power and political resistences
generally, the positing of meanings in postmodern contexts, obscenity and
its meanings, attempts to censor works as a result of obscenity - not
pathetic, thanks, but plenty of legitimate tie-ins, if you ask me.  I too
like to think we share similar tastes when TP has DL Chastain sing "Kick Out
the Jams".

Taste's will as taste does, but there was a decent amount of interest over
that one, we had a nice wee chat without anyone getting their feelings hurt
too bad, so feel free to keep deletin' and move on, surely.

Phil

----- Original Message -----
From: <RuudSaurins at aol.com>
To: <pynchon-l at waste.org>
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 2:55 PM
Subject: Pinch and Swallow: Musickal Musings


>      I, too, have enjoyed wearing out the delete button in response to all
the musings regarding rap, hip-hop, Eminem, and Pynchon.  I simply do not
see them related in any but the most contrived and pretentious fashion.  I
do, however, think that music (in general, all forms, styles, fashions,
social implications, etc.) is very dear, and possibly important to Thomas
Pynchon.  It is one area of his writing where I feel he will "go out of his
way" just to drop a name.  I must admit an instant cheap thrill when he
mentions, for example, Jaco Pastorius in Vineland.  Nice to think we may
share some similar tastes.   Rossini vs. Beethoven in the ears and heart of
Osbie Feel in GR.  I could post and read ad nauseum about Pynchon and music,
but focusing on Eminem, rap, and hip-hop to the exclusion of the topic at
large srikes me as mis-directed bordering on pathetic.
>                         Know one owes,
>                         Ruud Saurins
>




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