Pynchon & rap

[lorentzen-nicklaus]

Doug Millison schrieb:

> Rap , with its sampled or synthetically created musical settings,
> does not appear to call upon the sort of virtuoso musical performance
> technique that forms the heart of jazz.  

  don't think one can say so. both, mc-ing  a n d  dj-ing, require not only 
  long-time practice but also a very special musical sensitivity. 

>There are jazz-era spoken-word
> experiments that might be viewed as part of rap music's lineage -- I heard
> something from one of the Mingus groups on the radio recently that might be
> seen in such a light.

  sure. with its "technization of orality" hiphop stands in a long tradition, 
  which goes, as terrance reminded us lately, back to the west-african griots of 
  the 15th century and contains, to name just a few, things like scat, toasting, 
  the dozens or call & response. in "rap attack" [1991], david toop offers a lot 
  of material on this issue. "sonny liston is great/but he'll fall in eight ..."

       
  when my father saw satchmo in the 50s in kiel, there were some 
  "halbstarkenkrawalle" (about: youth riots) around the concert; i imagine the  
  comments of most older people back then were not too different from what    
  people say today about eminem's influence on his listeners. before it   
  reached its "canonical status", jazz (at least in europe) had dwelled in the 
  same "sphere of potential legitimation" (bourdieu) hiphop can be seen in    
  today ...        
  

kfl