NP police kill protester in Genoa - eyewitness account

Phil Wise philwise at paradise.net.nz
Tue Jul 24 06:09:00 CDT 2001


Interesting thoughts.  Despite attempts among leftist intellectuals, there's
no way to equate fascism with capitalism.  That's not to say capitalism
can't have fascist elements or survive a fascist regime in power, or that
fascism can't exploit the capitalist classes as the fascists so clearly did
in the '30s.  What interests me in regards to what I posted before about
Theweleit and Benjamin and others is to what extent capitalist conditions,
especially the sort of decentralised lases-faire (if that's the term I'm
after) variety, might produce what you might call "reaction formations" with
affinities to fascist organisation.  This might happen if they perceive
their opposition as a radical enough "other", opposed to the purity of
themselves and what they stand for.  I can conceive of reaction formations
against the dominant nomenclature and ones that defend it, and I think we
may have seen examples of both in the last few days.

Phil


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Monroe" <davidmmonroe at yahoo.com>
To: <pynchon-l at waste.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 9:50 PM
Subject: RE: NP police kill protester in Genoa - eyewitness account


> Well, you don't HAVE to agree with Terrance, but ...
>
> --- CyrusGeo at netscape.net wrote:
> >
> > And I have to agree with Terrance when he says that
> > the real fascists (here in Greece, too) are most
> > ardent anti-globalizationists.
> >
> > Cyrus
>
> ... but, upon reading Terrance's post, my thought was
> that the emphasis/deemphasis on "free" (in what sense
> of the word, if any?  When you come right down to it
> ...) markets might well be all that really
> distinguishes yr so-called "Objectivists" (Randists,
> Randroids, what have you) from yr fascists.  But now I
> can't help but think, what ditsinguishes yr fascists
> from yr capitalists in terms of "globalization" is
> that, whereas yr capitalist ideal is to globalize
> "free" markets, yr facsist ideal is to globalize
> fascism.  Is a "market" "globalized" when it is
> "globalized" by virtue of the "global" extension of
> centralized rule?  That is, was, say, Ethiopia a
> "gloablized" market vis a vis Italy under Mussolini?
> The Sudentenland, Austria, et al., under Hitler?
> Isolationism can only exist in relation to an Other,
> no?  Okay, just reaccessed, and I gots to go, so ...
>
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