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mike j michaelmailing at yahoo.com
Tue Jun 26 14:52:14 CDT 2001


thanks for the support thomas. tim is hot, joel is not
 - and when you're rating his films don't forget 'ed
wood'! 

a snob like millison might think this topic belongs on
salon, but you and i know that pynchon himself is a
proud american, kitsch and all.


Doug replied to Mike Janson (whose post has not
reached the list, has it?):

> Take your quibble to Salon.com, amigo; I didn't
write this.
> I'm not really a Batman movie fan, either, although
I enjoyed the comic
> books when I was a kid.

Doug,
this is not really a quibble, it is damn serious
(insert emoticon for being
slightly ironical here): Joel Schumacher is the second
worst director under the
sun (the crown, of course, still sitting firmly on Luc
Besson's head). The
prospect of him directing a film version of "On the
Road" is therefore less than
exciting.

Tim Burton, on the other hand, is one of the best
among the Hollywood big shots
(others include the eternal exception Martin Scorsese
and the likes of John
McNaughton and Sam Raimi, whose last movie I have not
seen, but whose "A Simple
Plan" is one of the best at least of the last decade).
The first two
"Batman"-movies are immensely watchable. The first one
has its flaws, but the
second one ("Batman's Return" or "The Return of
Batman") may well stand as the
most disturbing picture Hollywood ever offered to a
young audience. It is also
very, very good. After this, not surprisingly,
Hollywood decided to let Joel
Schumacher direct, and have Michael Keaton, an odd but
brillant choice for Bruce
Wayne, replaced by Brad Pitt and later George Clooney.

The other perfect film by Tim Burton is "Edward
Scissorhands", but everything he
has put on film, even "Mars Attacks", is well worth
watching. Let's see what he
will do with "Planet of the Apes"...

Thomas

P.S. There are two movies in pre-production now that
are based on novels by
James Ellroy, "The Black Dahlia" and "White Jazz".
Ellroy with "American
Tabloid" and his latest, "Cold Six Thousand", which I
have not read yet, seems
to be getting into Pynchon and DeLillo territory now,
at least as far as
political conspiracy is concerned. Any opinions (on
Ellroy, the movies etc.)?




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