bullying? Re: pynchon-l-digest V2 #2233

[Otto]

Doug Millison:
> I told otto offlist that I didn't think his invitation
> to discuss the Terry O'Reilly was
> sincere, and declined to take him up on it.
> But maybe he told you offlist
> that he feels bullied, I don't know.
>

Nope

>
> I'd be surprised to hear that, he
> passes along the gist of my offlist post to him without distortion.
>

Indeed, I tried to. Why should I? I just left out the offensive & other
parts for the sake of a discussion about P's-Lit on the P-List.
And I hadn't posted any of your offlist-words at all if they hadn't been "on
topic" - just to make sure that discussion *is* possible. Hey, Reilly (where
did you get the "O'Reilly" from?) doesn't even speak about Orwellian Pigs --
another point of comparison to Pynchon.

>
> As far as telling P-list newcomers to watch out for your slimeball
tactics,
> I consider that a public service.  They make up their minds soon enough,
it
> seems to me.  They can also speak for themselves if they wish; if they do
> many of them will tell you, I'm quite certain,  that they have approached
> me offlist wondering why you're such a nasty, intellectually dishonest
jerk
> and wanting to know in general what in the hell is going on in Pynchon-L.
> I admit it would be fun to see everybody who has complained to me offlist
> about your behavior speak up on list to confirm same -- but who wants to
> get on your shit list? I don't blame them for keeping quiet.
>

I do -- if it's true what you are saying! This way it's just an assertion
you are making. And not any assertion,
it's precisely the same you are making over and over.

> rj/rjackson/jbor/?:
> >Hey Doug: how about a retraction of your false accusation that I'm in the
> >habit of making anti-Semitic slurs?
>
> Hey whatever your name might be: The only anti-Semitic slurs you've made,
> to my knowledge,  are when you and then kai addressed Derek in a way that
> he said could be perceived as anti-Semitic.  Why you didn't speak up and
> tell kai to knock it off when he continued your argument and defended the
> use of "maus" after Derek said it could be perceived as anti-Semitic, I
> still don't understand; you do seem quite selective in whom you choose to
> chide for their P-list manners.  As far as your usual habits are concerned
> regarding anti-Semitic comments, I really wouldn't know.
>
> -Doug

Seems in the end there's no use of trying it reasonable. See my other post.

Otto