filth of capitalism

[Paul Mackin]

barbara100 at jps.net wrote:

> You're just trying to goad me with your slashes (/), old man.  You know full
> fucking well...
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> But anyway, what do you think our Author would have to say about this:

The below quoted material seem OK to me. It's a noncontroversial depiction of
colonialism. Of course other important forces make up the equation. The West
succeeded. Islam didn't. Islam had a promising start. Should have been able to
do better even with an antagonist like Christendom. I wish Islam could have
sustained itself. Done something for its ordinary people. But it didn't.
History is history. It can't be repealed. What are the British lads going to do
about it. Talk endlessly I suppose. And dream, like Pokler.  Like you. The
terrorists at least show signs of life. I still want them stopped. With as
little killing as possible. But stopped.

        P.


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> "This is what he has learned: "The problems didn't start with September 11
> or even with the war in Kuwait or Palestine," he says. "It started with
> colonialism. You came in, took our resources, made our people into slaves.
> You imposed borders on us which we didn't want, regimes which we didn't
> want. You planted dictators, kings, against our will.'"



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> In case you don't recognize it, it's from the Washington Post article you
> posted.  Wouldn't this colonialist idea be a big theme in M&D?  I haven't
> even read it yet, but from the looks of GR on colonialism, I can only
> imagine.  Anybody have a quote from M&D that would support this young
> budding terrorist's sentiment?
>
> "[...]....Oh, no. Colonies are much, much more.  Colonies are the outhouses
> of the European soul, where a fellow can let his pants down and relax, enjoy
> the smell of his own shit.  Where he can fall on his slender prey roaring as
> loud as he feels like, and guzzle her blood with open joy. Eh?  Where he can
> just wallow and rut and let himself go in a softness, a receptive darkness
> of limbs, of hair as wooly as the hair on his own forbidden genitals.  Where
> the poppy, and cannabis and coca grow full and green, and not to the colors
> and style of death, as do ergot and agaric, the blight and fungus native to
> Europe.  Christian Europe was always death, Karl, death and repression. Out
> and down in the colonies, life can be indulged, life and sensuality in all
> its forms, with no harm done to the Metropolis, nothing to soil those
> cathedrals, white marble statues, noble thoughts....No word ever gets back.
> The silences down here are  vast enough to absorb all behavior, no matter
> how dirty, how animal it gets...."  (GR 369)
>
> The "dusky natives" aren't so silent now, eh?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Paul Mackin <paul.mackin at verizon.net>
> To: <pynchon-l at waste.org>
> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 10:32 AM
> Subject: filth of capitalism
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> > Here's an outfit that might accept Doug/Barbara for membership.
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> >  http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A3779-2001Nov22.html
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