Eliade & Boyarin

[Dave Monroe]

Any particular reason you're harping on this,
Terrance?  Just curious, is all.  Discussions, such as
they are here, have a tendency to swerve in and out of
being about a given topic vis a vis those Pynchonian
texts ((c), er, me ...) and just plain being about
that topic.  One could argue with Eliade, or whoever,
here, or one could elaborate on his, or their,
possible, probable, admitted, even, influence on
Pynchon.  Which tack are you taking here?  And with
whom?  Me, I'm trying to reopen M&D after my usual
post-hosting burnout (albeit, admittedly, having not
put in half the time or effort I have in the past) ...

--- Terrance <lycidas2 at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
http://www.humnet.ucla.edu/lateantique/resources/online_texts.htm
> 
> I'll have to check, but I think Henry Adams, Hans
> Jonas, Gershom Scholem, Robert Graves, Albert Pike,
> Freud, Brown....all have opinions about this that
> agree with Eliade.  Again, I'm in no way suggesting
> that Boyarin is wrong on this, but P didn't read
> Boyarin as far as we know. He did read the others.
> It doesn't really matter. Boyarin is an
> intertextual/deconstructionist so...

But don't confuse (brothers, I believe) Jonathan with
Daniel here ...

Boyarin, Daniel.  Intertextuality and the Reading
   of Midrash.  Bloomington: Indiana UP, 1990.

Both, of course, are informed in no small way by
Derrida, but ... 

But there are those who've argued, that, contrasting
Jewish readings of the Torah vs. Christian readings of
the Bible, there are reasons why Jewish readers like
Derrida, Harold Bloom, Geoffrey Hartman, et al. are
more likely to read in the ways that they do, e.g.,
...

Handelman, Susan A.  The Slayers of Moses: The
   Emergence of Rabbinic Interpretation in Modern
   Literary Theory.  Albany: SUNY Press, 1983.

Faur, Jose.  Golden Doves with Silver Dots:
   Semiotics and Textuality in Rabbinic Tradition.
   Bloomington: Indiana UP, 1986.

Hartman, Geoffrey H., ed.  Midrash and Literature.
   New Haven, CN: Yale UP, 1990.

But, again, a whole nother (this in the OED yet? 
howzabout "sposta"?  As in, I was sposta start reading
Ch. 18, but ...) set of topics here, so ... but I am
curious now, what about Islamic literary theory? 
Anyone know of any decent works on reading(s of) the
Koran out there?   Let me know ...


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