blaming Pynchon

[David Morris]

Who the fuck are you?  Why are YOU so emotional about all this?  Doug can 
discredit himself without any help from Babs.  She is merely the amusing 
(but pathetic) icing.  I wouldn't say she's that great a writer, though.

And if this list is "discredited" (whatever that's supposed to mean), your 
contributions haven't done much to help it.

David Morris

>From: John Lundy <jlundy at gyk.com.au>
>
>Okay, you guys.  After that corruscating prose, tell me with a straight
>face that Babs is Doug.  If they really are, I'm prepared to sleep with
>Doug.
>
>But I think I'm okay.
>
>The girl can think and she can write, which makes her almost fucking unique
>on the sadly discredited list.
>
>On Thursday, 11 October 2001 14:37, barbara100 at jps.net
>[SMTP:barbara100 at jps.net] wrote:
> > No, Terrance, I can't write anything for you on M&D.  I'm not reading 
>it.
>  I
> > couldn't give up GR in time for M&D. Right now I'm reading Ulysses.  It
>came
> > recommended by a fine Australian gent I know. If you want me to write 
>you
>a
> > 'blurb' on Gravity's Rainbow and what I learned about war and humanity
>from
> > Thomas Pynchon, I can do that. I've been toying with the idea of writing
> > something on Byron and his bulb buddies anyway. I think there's a
>similarity
> > between them and Blicero and his soldier(s). It's not a big similarity,
>but
> > just enough for one to make a 'connection.'  You know, bulbs afraid to
> > explode against corporate corruption, boys afraid to speak up before
>being
> > sent to die--they're both being FUCKED over by the POWERS that be in the
> > worst and most degrading ways IMAGINABLE, and they're too fucking SCARED
>to
> > do anything about it!  There's tremendous POWER in their numbers, but 
>the
> > people are too SCARED and too manipulated by external POWER they don't
>even
> > unite against their rape and destruction.  It's been happening 
>everywhere
> > the same way for as long as we can remember.  We're so accustomed to it
>now,
> > we don't even feel it slipping in.
> >
> > Maybe you won't like that subject though. I could see how it might turn
>your
> > stomach a little. How about the 'brotherhood' theme, then?  Half-breed
> > Enzian on a mission to erase his race. There's a curious bit of irony.
> > Makes a girl wanna look twice, you know.  I could talk some about that.
>  If
> > Enzian and Tchitcherine aren't a picture of  the brotherhood of man, I
>don't
> > know what is.  Pynchon makes sure (or not) his reader comes away from
>that
> > book feeling 'connected' to the world. And if you don't catch it in the
> > humanism, you can catch it in the psychoses. In Paranoia all things are
> > connected too.
> >
> > Go ahead, loosen that sphincter of your soul,  raise your ass to the
> > Master's whip. It hurts gooood to see our humanity--its brutality and
>well
> > as its love.
> >
> > Barbara
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Terrance <lycidas2 at earthlink.net>
> > To: <pynchon-l at waste.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 5:39 PM
> > Subject: Re: blaming pynchon
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > "barbara100 at jps.net" wrote: How I expect you'd notice *that* when you
> > > can't even see the obvious messages in his work.
> > >
> > > Messages? Like what? Come on Barb give us just one little hint.
> > > Write one post about Pynchon. Not Terrance, not anything else. Kust 
>one
> > > little post
> > > about M&D. I'd like that.
> > >
> > > PS Maybe you'll set a trend. Hey, maybe even Doug will post something
> > > about Pynchon.
> > > Not a link or a mention, but an honest to god post about one passage 
>in
> > > the books.
> > > Don't get too excited folks. He can't do it.


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