MDMD(6): . . . and perhaps she will behave

[John Bailey]

When I first read M&D I thought some kind of joke on ketchup was being made, 
until I noticed in the supermarket aisle about twenty varieties of this 
'ketjap' stuff. And as far as I know, they are all much thicker than soy 
sauce, although they might be made from soy, I don't know. I'm surprised 
that soy beans could grow on the Cape.


>From: Chaim Gingold <cog at slackworks.com>
>To: Michel Ryckx <michel.ryckx at freebel.net>
>CC: "pynchon-l at waste.org" <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>Subject: Re: MDMD(6): . . . and perhaps she will behave
>Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 14:36:21 -0400 (EDT)
>
>
>Kecap differs from soy sauce in that it is much thicker -- it's thick
>like ketchup.
>
>On Thu, 18 Oct 2001, Michel Ryckx wrote:
>
> > "Strike her upon the Bottom [. . .] and perhaps she will behave." 
>(79.26-27)
> >
> > "Ketjap" is soy sauce.  It is always very fluid, as most of you will 
>know.
> > Two notes on this joke:
> >
> > (1) It is very seldom used directly on the table. One uses it in the
> > kitchen.  The use on Mutton in the Vroom dining room is not very
> > appropriate.  But I guess our Author needed this pun in order to be able 
>to
> > say:
> > (2)  "Strike her upon the Bottom", for he knows any American will 
>associate
> > it with the sweet tomato sauce in long-necked bottles.  They phrase is
> > funny, but a bit disappointing (for me, that is).  The use of his 
>research
> > is not perfect in this case.  Can we allow this?
> >
> > This is from: http://www.xs4all.nl/~margjos/nlketjap.htm
> > "Soy sauce is made from fermented soy beans, with added spices. There 
>are
> > many types and within the same type there are big differences in between 
>the
> > different brands. Usage: In marinates [sic], sauces, stew and soup."
> >
> > and from http://www.balivision.com/article/Food and Spices,.htm
> > "The other principal spice for cooked food [in Bali] has the confusing 
>(to a
> > Westerner) name of "kecap", pronounced "ketchap."   But "kecap" is what 
>we
> > call "soy sauce," not our familiar tomato sauce. It comes either sweet,
> > "kecap manis", or sour, "kecap asem." Although there are hundreds of 
>spices
> > used in Balinese cooking, everyday food is often quite simple. "
> >
> > http://thestar.com.my/kuali/recipes/mutton.html has some recipes with
> > lengkua in it.  It is ginger root.
> >
> > Michel.
> >
>


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