Quail: "You won't even simply *give up* when asked. [...] stoplecturing me"

[Terrance]

Doug Millison wrote:
> 
> There's the problem, Barbara:  Quail is upset  because you won't obey and
> do what he wants you to do. Apparently he wants to do all the lecturing and
> name-calling on the P-list,  that's obvious from what he's written on
> Pynchon-L these past many days.  Just go back and read his posts, if you've
> got the stomach  to work your way back though that swamp of limp-noodle
> logic.

S&M logic? Oh, you said, limp-noodle logic. That's funny. 


> 
> Here's my theory:  so thoroughly have people like Quail been co-opted by
> the bitch goddess America, they can only react hysterically when it begins
> to appear that this art object they venerate -- Pynchon's writing -- may
> reveal uncomfortable truths about America.  

Gee, I don't know, don't we all know more about the uncomfortable truth
that is/was 
America than what may be revealed in Pynchon's books?  I guess if we
haven't read much else about America or experienced America in some way
this could be true, but I hardly think this is true of anyone here. Gee,
I don't think most of the uncomfortable truths about America that
Pynchon reveals in his fictions had much impact on me because I knew
about a lot of them already. In fact, I suspect I know more about some
of these uncomfortable truths than Mr. Pynchon. This because I have
experienced (and I'm quite certain this is the case with Allan and
everyone else on this list) these uncomfortable truths not in fictions
vicariously, but in life uncomfortably.   

We should be disgusted that some idiots in the government have used
truth serum on soldiers. If we were journalists we could write
editorials to the newspapers when we read that the government is
considering using truth serums on terrorist suspects. A journalist might
allude to GR in his editorial, but he might do better if he provided
more facts and less fictions. He might get his point across if he knew
his audience or didn't assume they were a bunch of co-opted patriotic
robots waving the flag. 


Doug, go out and buy a puppy and train him to piss on the newspapers.